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price comparisons

In the news today is a new WEBsite
www.preisbarometer.ch which is to compare prices of various shops in Switzerland and Germany
but which apparently is not yet properly working

Interesting is
www.toppreise.ch
or with an example
http://buch.toppreise.ch/buecher/pre...&rs=&rt=tpb_de
which shows some absurd things

Interesting is the contribution in what I from its name expected to be a reactionary source
http://www.schweizerbauer.ch/htmls/artikel_30851.html
with information like
Besonders gross sind die Preisunterschiede bei den Zeitschriften. So kosten solche in der Deutschschweiz 61 Prozent mehr als in Deutschland. Für französische Zeitschriften zahlt man in der Romandie 69 Prozent mehr als in Frankreich. Im Tessin sind italienische Zeitschriften sogar 104 Prozent teurer als in Italien.
Die Konsumentenschützer hielten dazu fest, dass den beiden Kioskbetreibern (Valora und Naville Presse) die Preise von den ausländischen Verlagen vorgeschrieben würden. «Auch in anderen Bereichen ist es so, dass im Ausland bestimmt wird, welche Preise in der Schweiz gelten», sagte Stalder. Dagegen sollten sich Wirtschaft und Politik gemeinsam wehren.







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Re: price comparisons

Comparing the groceries: Italy is 20% cheaper than Switzerland. Austria is 25% cheaper, France 35%, and Germany is 45% cheaper than Migros/Coop!

I cannot see if these are simple over the counter price comparisons, or over the border, and tax reclaimed comparisons.

There was an article in the Beobachter consumer magazine about 12 months ago which stated that the prices should be the same in Switzerland as in Germany. The reason being that in Germany the employer pays the health insurance and makes more social payments, and the sales tax difference between Swiss 8% to German 19% is another 11% and the salary difference is not very large for manual workers.

So where does the missing 45% go to? I am a basic Migros society member, but I never get any membership payments or any special offers.
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Old 30.10.2012, 22:11
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I do hope that www.preisbarometer.ch becomes a success: but I fear until the law is changed we will continue to suffer higher prices fixed from outside of Switzerland.
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Comparing the groceries: Italy is 20% cheaper than Switzerland. Austria is 25% cheaper, France 35%, and Germany is 45% cheaper than Migros/Coop!

I cannot see if these are simple over the counter price comparisons, or over the border, and tax reclaimed comparisons.

There was an article in the Beobachter consumer magazine about 12 months ago which stated that the prices should be the same in Switzerland as in Germany. The reason being that in Germany the employer pays the health insurance and makes more social payments, and the sales tax difference between Swiss 8% to German 19% is another 11% and the salary difference is not very large for manual workers.

So where does the missing 45% go to? I am a basic Migros society member, but I never get any membership payments or any special offers.
It goes into the purchase of more and more subsidiaries and into the purchase and more and more outlets plus into the subsidizing of remote outlets which in reality had to charge 80% more to cover the higher transport costs
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Old 30.10.2012, 22:56
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I do hope that www.preisbarometer.ch becomes a success: but I fear until the law is changed we will continue to suffer higher prices fixed from outside of Switzerland.
The "change of law" only is needed in regard to domestic-cartel-agreements. No new law is required in regard to the "UVP - unverbindlicher Verkaufs-Preis - recommended sales price" as it is up to the trading company simply to refuse such "recommendations" and in case the suppliers get wild, stop the purchases. There in "Züri-Nord" are two shops dealing with aviation goods who permanently refuse to accept such "recommendations" and at least two major German suppliers very well co-operate. Quite many customers of shops in the Zürich area are (YES, still are! ) Germans, who perfectly well know the few but important products which are cheaper overhere anyway, and also realize within split-seconds when a product is cheaper than in Germany. The German shoppers are important enough that Zürich-City-Police and most of the city-police-units north of Zürich long ago changed the parkometers to accept Euros, of course on the basis of a 1:1 rate, which is nice for the city-finance What a MediaMarkt chap of MediaMarkt Donaueschingen told me quite a while ago still is true now. Thanks to Japanese-Swiss trade agreements (both country-to-country and company-to-company) many articles in the TV/radio/electronics sector are cheaper here than in Germany but the furniture and some equipment for the stuff in question is cheaper in Germany by up to 60% ! A few months ago, Migros and Coop started to refuse those "recommendations" and only restarted certain imports after those suppliers backed down.

Why did so many CH retailers accept that nonsense for so long ?
Very simple, because they had between 25% and 70% out of the add-on profit ! Things only changed when also people farther inland than the usual border-zone saw the savings-potential of a visit to places like Konstanz

The Konsumentenschutz therefore wants to raise the pressures. Extraordinary circumstances demand extraordinary actions !
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