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Re: Election of Bundesrat

I think it's a disgrace that the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce was deposed by a catholic conspiracy. The others, like most politicians everywhere (Clinton Blair Sarko etc...) are all failed lawyers. Let's hope that next time the conservatives get together in revenge and boot out that miserable creep Leuenberger.

As for EWS she's also a failed lawyer, it seems that many female delegates voted for her just because she's a woman, down with 'frauenpower' I say, actually she looks like an embryo...
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Old 14.12.2007, 09:53
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I think it's a disgrace that the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce was deposed by a catholic conspiracy. The others, like most politicians everywhere (Clinton Blair Sarko etc...) are all failed lawyers. Let's hope that next time the conservatives get together in revenge and boot out that miserable creep Leuenberger.

As for EWS she's also a failed lawyer, it seems that many female delegates voted for her just because she's a woman, down with 'frauenpower' I say, actually she looks like an embryo...
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Not even for the elections in October? Sorry, but I still haven't completely figured out how the political system works here.
members of the federal council don't usually run for Nationalrat or Ständerat, as they can't be both in the executive and in the legislative they would have to give up one or the other office if elected.


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I think it's a disgrace that the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce was deposed by a catholic conspiracy. The others, like most politicians everywhere (Clinton Blair Sarko etc...) are all failed lawyers. Let's hope that next time the conservatives get together in revenge and boot out that miserable creep Leuenberger.
of course...a catholic conspiracy, charming. Blocher mainly has himself to blame, as he just isn't a teamplayer. All the time he was in office he still kept making opposition policy and for that he got the bill handed to him now. You can't be in the governement and the opposition at the same time. Looks like the parliament was finally fed up with him

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of course, a woman cannot be elected if not for the Frauenbonus /sarcasm
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Not even for the elections in October? Sorry, but I still haven't completely figured out how the political system works here.
If you are a member of the executive branch of a government you cannot normally be a member of the legislative branch. Widmer-Schumpf, for example, is coming directly from a cantonal government (Graubünden). If you become a member of the Federal Council, you have to resign from the National- or Ständerat (National Council and "Senate"). As Blocher was a member of the Federal Council and planned to remain so, he was not included on the party list. Doing so would have shown a very strong lack of confidence in his (or their, given the logic of the SVP) position.

Note: This applies to governments that are federal and include a separation of power. I took this as automatically understood because I am an American... Until I suddenly thought of the parliamentary system in the UK. I am sorry that I wasn't clear on this one.
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I think it's a disgrace that the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce was deposed by a catholic conspiracy. The others, like most politicians everywhere (Clinton Blair Sarko etc...) are all failed lawyers. Let's hope that next time the conservatives get together in revenge and boot out that miserable creep Leuenberger.

As for EWS she's also a failed lawyer, it seems that many female delegates voted for her just because she's a woman, down with 'frauenpower' I say, actually she looks like an embryo...
Then again it looks like the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce had a grand total of 0 (zero) achievements worth boasting about while he was let play with Schweiz A.G.
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Then again it looks like the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce had a grand total of 0 (zero) achievements worth boasting about while he was let play with Schweiz A.G.
But do you know how much his personal assets have grown during this 4 years?
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But do you know how much his personal assets have grown during this 4 years?
Way too much for someone who was supposed to spend his time running the country and not his portfolio...
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I think it's a disgrace that the only minister with any experience of industry and commerce was deposed ...
Berlusconi?
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Good example. In this case it is at least clear where his money came from initially.
But how could a priest's son buy the chemical factory EMS?
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The SVP election campaign placed all of its focus on Blocher.
Swiss democracy is a real marvel, based on balance and consensus rather than seizing total power.

In the end the SVP's election campaign focused on 'strengthen Blocher'.
Although 71% of voters rejected this, the SVP did gain significant votes.
And the result, the Federal Assembly votes out Blocher but retains the SVP's 2 seats in the government.

The SVP will have a hard time in opposition.
What sort of alliances will they be able to build in the Nationalrat?
In the Staenderat they lost their Zurich seat and now only have 7 members.
If they focus on initiatives and polarising public opinion as they did with the 'black sheep' campaign, they'll look increasingly extreme and 4 years of election style campaigning is unlikely to increase public support, which may well have peaked.

If the party splits or re-groups around its more moderate wing the Bundesrat elections will have done them a favour.
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Re: Election of Bundesrat

http://www.facts.ch/articles/71139

According to this SP publication, just before the parliament elections, the SVP were planning to remove both SP Bundesräte. Widmer-Schlumpf is named as one of the candidates who would run against Leuenberger and Calmy-Rey. It is ironic to read this, now that the opposite has happened.
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According to a recent poll, 60% of the population welcome parliament's decision to replace Blocher with Widmer-Schlumpf, with 27% against. And 56% also think it is wrong of the SVP to go into opposition.
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Old 17.12.2007, 11:29
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Re: Election of Bundesrat

Now that the dust has settled a bit, I have a better idea of the SVP "opposition" role. The party wants to sorta-excommunicate the government and the SVP federal council members. But they won't renounce on their seats in the very important parliamentary commissions. So they're still no opposition force in the legislative, and below the national level.

In an act of reality denial, the SVP declined to participate in the last Arena, a TV format for political debates. The reason was that they weren't granted half of the seats for the "new Swiss opposition". A bunch of whiners they are.
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Old 18.12.2007, 11:09
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Re: Election of Bundesrat

just came across this on Swissinfo galleries :



centre-left parliamentarian Hugo Fasel celebrates Blocher's loss



People's Party supporters at Bern's Hotel Kreuz
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Old 18.12.2007, 11:19
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Re: Election of Bundesrat

Toni Brunner actually shed a tear when listening to Blocher's last speech... not that I base my opinion about him on this.

This afternoon is the first parliamentary fraction meeting since the deselection. Mabe we will hear further informations from the new "opposition".
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Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf's house has been sprayed with the number 187 - regarded as a death threat. No doubt this piece of disgraceful vandalism is the work of extreme-right morons.

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/van...schlumpf-78857
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Re: Election of Bundesrat

Just some pictures.... hehehe
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