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Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

So, I was having a chat with my mate Hans-Ueli at the weekend. He's a lovely chap, considers himself to be broadly left-liberal, makes a special effort to be nice to brown people and Roman Catholics and other ethnic minorities.

He has strong opinions about a lot of things, but the things that get him really worked up are the atrocious treatment of animals by Muslims in the name of their 'religion', the overwhelming rate of immigration into Switzerland (the boat is almost full!), and criminality amongst asylum seekers. He's not racist, mind you: he's just concerned that other people who hold similar opinions might be.

Can you think of a suitable Swiss political party to which Hans-Ueli could lend his support? I don't really know enough about Swiss politics to help him, being a mere economic migrant and all.

Thank you in advance.
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Old 12.11.2012, 09:59
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

BDP or FDP, probably.

Addendum: where does he stand on EU entry and bilateral agreements?
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

http://www.pnos.ch/

This seems to suit your friend well.
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

What? ..... you know Hans-Ueli?
Is he the one, who's a bailiff?

I would think that SVP, is too liberal for him.
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

This seems to me like a personal attack on a member

Violent asylum seekers?


I thought the general consensus was that that was a no-no

http://www.englishforum.ch/general-o...-thy-food.html
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

Hans-Ueli isn't a member of EF.
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This seems to me like a personal attack on a member

Violent asylum seekers?


I thought the general consensus was that that was a no-no

http://www.englishforum.ch/general-o...-thy-food.html

Which member?
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

Any chance we could stay on topic?

I know next to nothing about Swiss politics, and would relish the opportunity to learn something about what each party stands for.
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Any chance we could stay on topic?

I know next to nothing about Swiss politics, and would relish the opportunity to learn something about what each party stands for.
Ah, very good. The women of PNOS are hand wringing concerned citizens. The are ardent liberals but mainly just for people who can trace their unbroken family tree back to one of the three original Cantons of Switzerland, over a thousand years. Importantly, they do not hate immigrants, they believe they should be looked after. Perhaps in an enclosed area to prevent harm from befalling them.
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

PNOS were the group who objected to Whitney Toyloy being Miss Switzerland because she wasn't Swiss enough, weren't they?
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PNOS were the group who objected to Whitney Toyloy being Miss Switzerland because she wasn't Swiss enough, weren't they?
Yes and they were correct. There were people who were more Swiss according to their own definitions.
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

It's a good job people like us can't vote, really, isn't it?

I mean, even if I get a Swiss passport: if I sympathise with the aims and objectives of a political party, but they're really talking about me, what am I to do?

It's ok for my mate, because he's Eidgenosse (he reminds me regularly), but who is a paper Swiss supposed to vote for if he feels the country is being taken over by the wrong sorts?
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Re: Choose a political party for Hans-Ueli

I can't vote here so I don't know if my political party has representation in this county. Perhaps Hans-Ueli could investigate further to see if the Patriopsychotic Anarchomaterialists would welcome him into their fold.

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My yard is SubGenius, even as I am SubGenius, because it is my slack. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weeds, its grass, its soil, its shade, its front and its back. I will keep my yard fertilized and watered, even as I am fertilized and watered. We will become part of each other.

Before Dobbs I swear this creed. My yard and I are the defenders of my realm. We are the masters of our neighbors. We are the saviors of my slack.

So be it, until victory is my family's and there is no goddamn dogshit on my side of the fence.
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Old 12.11.2012, 10:40
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It's a good job people like us can't vote, really, isn't it?

I mean, even if I get a Swiss passport: if I sympathise with the aims and objectives of a political party, but they're really talking about me, what am I to do?

It's ok for my mate, because he's Eidgenosse (he reminds me regularly), but who is a paper Swiss supposed to vote for if he feels the country is being taken over by the wrong sorts?
Yeah, right ..... you expect us to believe that, bearing in mind some of your outspokenness in the past?

I hope you're not trolling?
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Yeah, right ..... you expect us to believe that, bearing in mind some of your outspokenness in the past?
It's true I have strong opinions, but I've never really bothered to do the research into Swiss political parties because most of them are so boring.

I'm rather fond of the SVP, if the truth be told, because they shake things up a bit - there are few things in politics worse than complacency. Some of their policies make sense, but as I observed above, as a foreigner/paper Swiss to be, it could put me in an awkward moral position to vote for them. What's good for Glarnerland isn't necessarily what's good for the Confederation...

It's thorny and I'm ready to learn - who wants to educate me?
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Ah, very good. The women of PNOS are hand wringing concerned citizens. The are ardent liberals but mainly just for people who can trace their unbroken family tree back to one of the three original Cantons of Switzerland, over a thousand years. Importantly, they do not hate immigrants, they believe they should be looked after. Perhaps in an enclosed area to prevent harm from befalling them.
About "Perhaps in an enclosed area to prevent harm from befalling them."
& sterilised....
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About "Perhaps in an enclosed area to prevent harm from befalling them."
& sterilised....
Sterilisation is necessary to prevent harm from befalling them via reproduction.
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It's true I have strong opinions, but I've never really bothered to do the research into Swiss political parties because most of them are so boring.

I'm rather fond of the SVP, if the truth be told, because they shake things up a bit - there are few things in politics worse than complacency.
Very true, I wouldn't really like the SVP to get a bigger share of votes, but I quite like them to be that powerful minority party that keeps pestering all the others.

As for Hans-Ueli: his general views would be well represented by nearly all parties, with different degrees of denial. Foreigners are great in terms of economic benefits, if only they would go home* after work.

*where they come from.
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So, I was having a chat with my mate Hans-Ueli at the weekend. He's a lovely chap, considers himself to be broadly left-liberal, makes a special effort to be nice to brown people and Roman Catholics and other ethnic minorities.

He has strong opinions about a lot of things, but the things that get him really worked up are the atrocious treatment of animals by Muslims in the name of their 'religion', the overwhelming rate of immigration into Switzerland (the boat is almost full!), and criminality amongst asylum seekers. He's not racist, mind you: he's just concerned that other people who hold similar opinions might be.

Can you think of a suitable Swiss political party to which Hans-Ueli could lend his support? I don't really know enough about Swiss politics to help him, being a mere economic migrant and all.

Thank you in advance.
I'd recommend him not to vote for a party but for people. A good tool to find politicians that think alike is http://www.smartvote.ch/
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