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Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

Brazilian guy (34 yo) gets shot by Swiss ex-gf (31). Media portrays him as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/story/23156831


Another case of misandry (man-hate) in the media. The victim (a Man) is portrayed as the agressor, or at least accused of "deserving it"…

This is nothing new. Western World has become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/...ry-bubble.html
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This is nothing new. Western World has become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women,
Move to saudi Arabia then
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

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Another case of misandry (man-hate) in the media. The victim (a Man) is portrayed as the agressor, or at least accused of "deserving it"…

This is nothing new. Western World has become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/...ry-bubble.html
It is yet again another case of media sensationalism, because the reporter couldn't rezist to add unrelevant info, such as victim's love-life. I can imagine the indignant righteous neighbour Angela Something saying the man was a bad sort 'cause he had way too many young and nice girlfriends....
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Move to saudi Arabia then
Please do not divert from the topic, thanks
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It is yet again another case of media sensationalism, because the reporter couldn't rezist to add unrelevant info, such as victim's love-life. I can imagine the indignant righteous neighbour Angela Something saying the man was a bad sort 'cause he had way too many young and nice girlfriends....
I swear I did not get one word of this
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I swear I did not get one word of this
If you bother to read the article you'll understand, and btw has nothing to do with Angela-74.
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If you bother to read the article you'll understand, and btw has nothing to do with Angela-74.
LOL I did try to read it, ehem it is German though...still punctuation would be nice in your posts GM
I do agree on the sensationalism of the article, not on the conclusions of OP though
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This is nothing new. Western World has become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/...ry-bubble.html

If you looked at the paper, go to the front page for example, see how many stories are about men, and how many about women. look at the articles about men, and the articles about women, then tell us that again.
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Old 19.11.2012, 16:51
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

Although that site does have a slight bias feel to it, many of the points have a surprising amount of truth to them. I first came across these opinions a few years ago in a women's study course in undergrad. I took it for an easy credit (and have contact with women outside of engineering), but learned quite a bit about gender roles and revolutions.
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

It's the 20 minute. You can't expect "proper" reporting.

Maybe he was a womanizer and a kick boxer. Does it say being a womanizer and a kick boxer is a bad thing?
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

Read the comments, seems the bugger was a real Arschloch, now he has a few more.
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Move to saudi Arabia then
Why going for the extreme?
A man is dead and that newspaper (sh1tty journalism) attempts to "moderate" the crime by saying he was a womaniser...

That OP never said wrong, he just commented on how that "news" is badly written and unfair about that man.

Is correct for you?

Did he mention that the men should be better, or that women are "inferior" in any way?

Do you think your comment helps towards having fair rights between genders?

I think on the contrary that your comment is not making anyone going for equal rights.
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

It's terribly sad what has happened and not right that the media are reporting irrelevant details about the man's background. RIP.
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Why going for the extreme?
A man is dead and that newspaper (sh1tty journalism) attempts to "moderate" the crime by saying he was a womaniser...

That OP never said wrong, he just commented on how that "news" is badly written and unfair about that man.

Is correct for you?

Did he mention that the men should be better, or that women are "inferior" in any way?

Do you think your comment helps towards having fair rights between genders?

I think on the contrary that your comment is not making anyone going for equal rights.
Did they really argue he had it coming because he had lots of female friends? Sorry, I read the article too this morning and somehow I never got to that conclusion... they did speculate that there is a strong possibility that the woman shot him (speculation too, by the way) because he was unfaithful, yet I fail to realise how that makes this attack on a human being any less despicable..
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Re: Brasilian guy shot by ex-girlfriend, portrayed as "womanizer" and "kickboxer"

Woman shoots a man. The man must have been an @$$hole!
Man shoots a woman. The man must have be an @$$hole!

Conclusion:
Men are all @$$holes! So why try and be anything else

What was that meme again? "Don't hate the player, hate the game!"
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It's the 20 minute. You can't expect "proper" reporting.

Maybe he was a womanizer and a kick boxer. Does it say being a womanizer and a kick boxer is a bad thing?
Fair enough but after reading that toilet paper magazine, it does seems to be giving justifications on his way of life... Like "he was a womaniser", he more or less deserved what he got.

Also his "activities" have nothing to do in that newspaper!!!

He's dead, why the "toiletpaper writer" has to describe what he was doing?

Anyway, maybe it's a way to interpret that cr@p but it does look like an attempt to justify why he could have been shot.

Curiously, it does not have much information on the criminal.
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Did they really argue he had it coming because he had lots of female friends? Sorry, I read the article too this morning and somehow I never got to that conclusion... they did speculate that there is a strong possibility that the woman shot him (speculation too, by the way) because he was unfaithful, yet I fail to realise how that makes this attack on a human being any less despicable..
Fair enough, but then why sending a provocation by saying "move to Saoudi Arabia"?
I think it's acceptable not to have the same conclusion, but to exaggerate don't seems to help the topic, nor the gender thing.
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Read the comments, seems the bugger was a real Arschloch
Ah ok. So probably he deserved it. Seems fair...
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Read the comments, seems the bugger was a real Arschloch, now he has a few more.
In the UK they quickly arrest and prosecute anyone making illegal or incorrect comments.

It seems that here nothing similar happens.

Anyway correct or not, I'd not draw any conclusion from "comments"...Especially you don't know why they were given. Maybe jealous people, maybe he was an arsehole, etc... Nonetheless he had 2 children and that sucks (for them).
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