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Old 18.12.2012, 23:18
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IMO as stated previously, the studies rely heavily on the banking sector. They incorporate criterias, such as availabilities of goods and services, which would give Zurich a severe disadvantage if taken into accordingly. Furthermore, important factors such as urban polution or traffic per capita are simply looked over. In addition, there are ample reports on how Zurich doesn't rank well i.e. availability of wifi, 2nd most boring city in Europe, greyest/ugliest city, unfriendly residents spring to mind. Such facts are also not incorporated in the study and thus, for me at least, it doesn't represent a true quality of life ranking.
These are hardly facts, rather other inane rankings based on unclear, and probably arbitrary, criteria. Pollution, traffic and wifi could at least be somehow measured, but even there criteria can be set according to preference.

Things that can be ranked:
  1. Cars according to the time they need to overcame a defined distance.
  2. Potatoes according to highest volume.
  3. Cities according to people/km^2.

Things that can not be ranked easily:
  1. The "best" car (city/beer/colour)
  2. The "tastiest" potato.
  3. Cities according to their quality of live.

I will never understand why humans need to push anything in this one dimensional ranking format. For many things it just does not work. At least not without defining a very clear perspective. So when you say that this list relies heavily on the banking sector, this actually increases the information that can be taken from this list, because it tries to answer the question "for whom?" to a certain degree. Of course it is still far from optimal.and can be discussed endlessly. Making a ranking out of it will always end in very debatable results.

There is no such thing as a "true quality of life ranking". All that is left is personal preference (it is not "me at least", it is "only for me"). As soon as we start to discuss which criteria should be taken into consideration as well we can as well start to discuss our favourite colours. Mine is blue (followed by red and green).
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Old 19.12.2012, 00:44
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IMO as stated previously, the studies rely heavily on the banking sector. They incorporate criterias, such as availabilities of goods and services, which would give Zurich a severe disadvantage if taken into accordingly. Furthermore, important factors such as urban polution or traffic per capita are simply looked over. In addition, there are ample reports on how Zurich doesn't rank well i.e. availability of wifi, 2nd most boring city in Europe, greyest/ugliest city, unfriendly residents spring to mind. Such facts are also not incorporated in the study and thus, for me at least, it doesn't represent a true quality of life ranking.
You overrate Zürich in a way. Pollution ? Not splendid, just comparable to dozens of other medium-sized cities in Europe. Grey & ugly ? Grey is what most cities are, but ugly Zürich is not. Unfriendly residents ? Ever been to Paris ? or Frankfurt ? Traffic per capita ? heavy indeed, but just normal if compared to comparable cities. Boring ? Sure, but the competition with cities like Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Brussels, Lyon and Torino is heavy.

Sure, the ranks Zürich gets in studies like the Mercer are clearly not related to reality, Neither are some negative rankings. With the old town and the lake, Zürich in realistic terms is somewhere in the upper middle field of comparable cities, but sure not in a top rank. But please, who in a clear mind would love to live in Frankfurt ?
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Well,
you have the "Jet d'Eau"
you have the Bains des Paquis
you have the restaurants in the Paquis quarter
you have the Lake of Geneva
- wines and spirits in Geneva are cheaper than in Zch
I see what you are saying but on the other hand the amount of crime in the Paquis neighbourhood and all the dodgy characters who hang out there make it hard for me to relax and enjoy myself when in that area. The Bains des Paquis could do with a makeover too.
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I see what you are saying but on the other hand the amount of crime in the Paquis neighbourhood and all the dodgy characters who hang out there make it hard for me to relax and enjoy myself when in that area. The Bains des Paquis could do with a makeover too.
Nice places all over the globe tend to have a crime problem. And yes, the Bains des Paquis, and various other parts of Geneva, could well do with a bit of renovation ! no doubt .......

However, I each time I get to the Paquis find it easy to relax .... and have never seen "dodgy characters" (whatever you mean by this term)
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