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Old 13.12.2012, 23:24
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Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

The House of Representatives voted 110 to 73 to ban the bags, which are generally used for just 25 minutes on average. The Senate vote was much tighter, with 18 to 17 in favour.

The 3,000 tonnes of shopping bags in Switzerland account for 0.5 per cent of the plastic used annually.

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A ban would hardly bring about environmental improvements me thinks.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:37
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

They have been banned in other countries for years, mainly because they were left to blow about in the city and countryside.

It probably won't bring much to Switzerland, we will just be using paper bags instead.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:40
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They have been banned in other countries for years, mainly because they were left to blow about in the city and countryside.

It probably won't bring much to Switzerland, we will just be using paper bags instead.
Best thing would be to charge extra for them like in LA.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:42
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Expect a thread in Forum Support declaring that disposable plastic shopping bags is a great poster and his ban was another example of moderation gone mad.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:44
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

That's one ban I'm cool with. That and smoking in restaurants and bars.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:46
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

How much did this cost to pass this legislation? Most people seem to already bring their reusable shopping bags, and only use the tiny, thin, virtually useless bags for those small miscellaneous purchases, and people dispose of their trash more or less properly here, so I really don't see the cost-benefit relationship here.
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Old 13.12.2012, 23:50
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

Will they stop non food shops shoving everything into a bag before you can say 'Ich habe eine Tasche, Danke?' Especially annoying with those tiny ones, like you get in pharmacies, for things that ould fit in your coat pocket. Plus, they are not disolvable like theones in food shops. They are so biodegradable, looking at them melts them
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Will they stop non food shops shoving everything into a bag before you can say 'Ich habe eine Tasche, Danke?' Especially annoying with those tiny ones, like you get in pharmacies, for things that ould fit in your coat pocket. Plus, they are not disolvable like theones in food shops. They are so biodegradable, looking at them melts them
This never, ever happens to me. I am always asked if I would like a bag.
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

This is indeed very bad news for fans of autoasphyxiation.
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Will they stop non food shops shoving everything into a bag before you can say 'Ich habe eine Tasche, Danke?' Especially annoying with those tiny ones, like you get in pharmacies, for things that ould fit in your coat pocket. Plus, they are not disolvable like theones in food shops. They are so biodegradable, looking at them melts them
Just say it a bit quicker I make it very obvious I have my own bag and say as I hand the item/s over to the cashier - no need for a bag please, I have my own. Easy peasy.
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

I dont get it? Isnt it already like this?

If I go to coop for example, there are the crappy bags that will survive a walk to the car at best and carry only loo roll without tearing. Made that mistake when I lost a bottle of red on the Bahnofstrasse.

Otherwise, you have to pay for a paper or the bigger thicker life long (i guess) plastic bags.

Coop do have the bigger slightly better bags, with coop printed on it, that will act as a bag without tearing under the weight of a digestive biscuit, but they tend to only give if you ask, they're not often out for free for all.

Denner provide no bags, at least not where i go. Pay as you go plastic or paper.

Migros, erm, I think if I recall that they have the shitty plastic for one very lite item, otherwise, buy the paper or thick plastic.

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Old 14.12.2012, 01:11
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

I bring my own bag, got it for a few rappen from Poland and stuff it into my rucksack.
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

About time this is a good ban now lets hope they enforce the ban pronto there are far too many plastic bags.

The alsp need to ban cardboard packaging on food like pizza which is an absolute waste having to tear them off and throw them out at the shop
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

The main supermarkets here already don't give away plastic bags. It's a way of saving money, err I mean the environment.

But the other supermarkets (including all the Thai/Chinese and Turkish ones I know) and most other shops (including Manor and Coop non-food for eg) do give free bags.
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

I bought some condoms and the pharmacy asked if I needed a bag, no I said, she is quite good looking.
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I bought some condoms and the pharmacy asked if I needed a bag, no I said, she is quite good looking.
Did the pharmacist offer to help check if he purchase was ok
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Only the size; people rarely request the extra small
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Most people seem to already bring their reusable shopping bags, and only use the tiny, thin, virtually useless bags for those small miscellaneous purchases, and people dispose of their trash more or less properly here, so I really don't see the cost-benefit relationship here.
Totally agree. The ban is utterly stupid, given the facts that paper bags do actually more damage to the environment than plastic bags and that Switzerland has a proper waste disposal infrastructure in place where all waste is incinerated and therefore most oil/energy that went into these bags is recovered after use anyway.
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

How many bags could you make with the plastic of one of those containers in which meat, salami etc. is sold?
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Re: Yet another ban ( disposable plastic shopping bags )

wondering what they'd replace those little tiny poop bags with... wax paper?
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