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Dual US/Swiss Citizen 25.01.2013 08:34

Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Interesting article in Blick this morning:
http://www.blick.ch/people-tv/schwei...id2182274.html

Tina Turner is someone I really admire. What is interesting is that according to Blick, she will not only become Swiss but will give up her US citizenship. I wonder why ? :)

SuisseRomand 25.01.2013 08:37

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
and I didn't know she was living in Switzerland....

Divesnowboy 25.01.2013 08:46

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Congratulations to Mrs. Turner. I would gladly hand over my 2 passports for 1 Swiss one.

Dual US/Swiss Citizen 25.01.2013 08:58

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
In order to renounce US citizenship, even though she has been living in Europe for decades, she will have to pay a hefty 'Exit Tax' to the US which I think is 15% of all her assets.

TiMow 25.01.2013 09:25

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
I think she's been subliminally yearning to do this for a long time ...... even singing about it:


HollidayG 25.01.2013 09:31

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dual US/Swiss Citizen (Post 1778585)
In order to renounce US citizenship, even though she has been living in Europe for decades, she will have to pay a hefty 'Exit Tax' to the US which I think is 15% of all her assets.

Maybe she doesn't have that much, many stars spend it as fast
as it comes!

Nil 25.01.2013 09:34

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HollidayG (Post 1778604)
Maybe she doesn't have that much, many stars spend it as fast
as it comes!

Well everybody knows no one can't survive under 120 000 CHF per year...

Medea Fleecestealer 25.01.2013 10:20

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuisseRomand (Post 1778576)
and I didn't know she was living in Switzerland....

Quote:

Originally Posted by HollidayG (Post 1778604)
Maybe she doesn't have that much, many stars spend it as fast
as it comes!

Has been living in a chateau in Zurich since 1994 evidently. And has 3 other properties as well around the world. So those at least are going to cost her.

PaddyG 25.01.2013 10:38

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
I can turn a corner?

TexAg96 25.01.2013 11:08

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dual US/Swiss Citizen (Post 1778585)
In order to renounce US citizenship, even though she has been living in Europe for decades, she will have to pay a hefty 'Exit Tax' to the US which I think is 15% of all her assets.


Paying 15% now may be a wise move to avoid the sure-to-increase estate taxes, and a higher capital gains tax, etc. to which she would likely be subjected. While estimating my 2012 US tax bill, renouncing my US cititzenship crosses my mind, but I'm not wealthy enough for the Swiss to take me early!

Divesnowboy 25.01.2013 11:09

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 1778679)
I can turn a corner?

she certainly did after she left him... ;)

Dual US/Swiss Citizen 25.01.2013 11:41

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexAg96 (Post 1778710)
Paying 15% now may be a wise move to avoid the sure-to-increase estate taxes, and a higher capital gains tax, etc. to which she would likely be subjected. While estimating my 2012 US tax bill, renouncing my US cititzenship crosses my mind, but I'm not wealthy enough for the Swiss to take me early!

She should probably 'purchase' her freedom from US citizenship taxation before the price goes even further up. When the facebook founder, Eduardo Saverin renounced, several US senators wanted to make renunciation even more difficult. Also as you said capital gains tax will go up. I think this is partily due to a new Obamacare tax. She will finally be able to invest without all the complications, etc. Right now most of the banks probably don't even want her business because of the legal risks form the US. In the end she is removing all the uncertainty for the future and making her life a lot easier. This is sad that the US is treating its expats so poorly but this is reality.

sam ali 25.01.2013 11:56

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dual US/Swiss Citizen (Post 1778585)
In order to renounce US citizenship, even though she has been living in Europe for decades, she will have to pay a hefty 'Exit Tax' to the US which I think is 15% of all her assets.

Why? Does every American have to do that?

Divesnowboy 25.01.2013 11:58

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexAg96 (Post 1778710)
Paying 15% now may be a wise move to avoid the sure-to-increase estate taxes, and a higher capital gains tax, etc. to which she would likely be subjected. While estimating my 2012 US tax bill, renouncing my US cititzenship crosses my mind, but I'm not wealthy enough for the Swiss to take me early!

Devenir un Russe! :p

st2lemans 25.01.2013 12:05

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sam ali (Post 1778757)
Why? Does every American have to do that?

Only if you have more than $2M or so.

Tom

Guest 25.01.2013 12:40

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1778769)
Only if you have more than $2M or so.

Tom

Or have an average annual US federal income tax liability of 150K or higher over the past 3 years or something.

Luckily there is a special clause in the exit tax law (Section 877 created by the 2008 HEART Act) that exempts US citizens by birth who also acquired another citizenship at birth, continues to hold that other citizenship at time of renunciation, has been a US resident for no more than 10 of the past 15 years and is a tax resident of the other country of citizenship (acquired at birth) when renouncing.

Essentially, that means if I win the lottery or become super rich and have a lot of potentially realizable capital gains, I will just take a short vacation to my country of birth, register there as a tax resident, immediately renounce my US passport (acquired by birth abroad) at the embassy there to avoid the whole draconian exit tax as I fulfill all conditions for the exemption.

Guest 25.01.2013 12:47

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Divesnowboy (Post 1778762)
Devenir un Russe! :p

You kidding? I would rather be subject to US taxes rather than be arbitrarily thrown in a Russian pre-trial detention centre for years (and possibly dying of abuse, drug-resistant tuberculosis or something scary).

30,000 entrepreneurs end up in jail like this every year in Russia.

Wollishofener 26.01.2013 00:48

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuisseRomand (Post 1778576)
and I didn't know she was living in Switzerland....


She lives just a bit outside Zürich-Stadt on the eastern "lakeboard" . And is known to be shopping in quite normal shops in downtown. It is rumoured that her command of Züritüütsch is perfect. Judging from media-reports, she is well integrated now.

maxvoegtli 26.01.2013 02:22

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Yes, another swiss I can brag about to me mates.

Guest 26.01.2013 04:26

Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wollishofener (Post 1779801)
She lives just a bit outside Zürich-Stadt on the eastern "lakeboard" . And is known to be shopping in quite normal shops in downtown. It is rumoured that her command of Züritüütsch is perfect. Judging from media-reports, she is well integrated now.

You kidding me? Lol

http://youtu.be/uVUVLmL3A-M

On Swiss German TV, the presenter has to speak to her in English (and translate to the audience in German)! And this on Swiss National Day, the holiest of Swiss holidays!!!! :)

Google her interviews in German-language TV, she only speaks English!

Where is her "Züritüütsch"? WTF?! Talk about integration!

The reason behind all this is FATCA maybe, screwing her ability to handle her finances properly as she is still recording. Otherwise, she would have naturalized in 2007 when she was eligible.


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