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Old 30.01.2016, 21:08
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Re: Swiss orders Boeing 777s

Hope they don't decide to upgrade.

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You're wrong, but I won't spank you since you're just a young 'un.

Read this:

http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviat.../info07004.pdf

Note that the changes can be characterized by the change in meaning of ETOPS to “Extended Operations” since these provisions have broadened to include aircraft with more than two engines and to include both part 121 and part 135 operations.
We're in Europe here and under EASA regulations, not the FAA. EASA applies to twin engine aircraft. https://easa.europa.eu/system/files/...AMC%2020-6.pdf
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Old 31.01.2016, 10:40
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We're in Europe here and under EASA regulations, not the FAA. EASA applies to twin engine aircraft. https://easa.europa.eu/system/files/...AMC%2020-6.pdf
Yes, it's interesting that EASA hasn't adopted three and four-engined ETOPS. I remember it being assumed at the time (of the FAA decision) that they would.

Given that ETOPS is essentially engineering practices designed to avoid correlated failures in flight, what do you think of the differences in the FAA and EASA mindsets?
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Yes, it's interesting that EASA hasn't adopted three and four-engined ETOPS. I remember it being assumed at the time (of the FAA decision) that they would.

Given that ETOPS is essentially engineering practices designed to avoid correlated failures in flight, what do you think of the differences in the FAA and EASA mindsets?
I guess they just think it's not as critical for a multi-engine aircraft to lose one engine but it does make it difficult not having one regulation. At my work we are dealing with many different international authorities and each one has it's own "extras" regarding maintenance. I'm also not sure how much of the "we do it our way, not how you want us to do it" attitude is existing.
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Yes, it's interesting that EASA hasn't adopted three and four-engined ETOPS. I remember it being assumed at the time (of the FAA decision) that they would.

Given that ETOPS is essentially engineering practices designed to avoid correlated failures in flight, what do you think of the differences in the FAA and EASA mindsets?
They have, its called LROPS.
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Old 01.02.2016, 07:01
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Correct, the B52 is the exception of the ones portrayed above. Relevant however in so far as Boeing when developing the Boeing 707 also had 6-engined and 8-engined variants in their planning but finally opted for only 4 engines. Relevant was not so much the danger of engine-failures but the simple fact that there was no engine existing, of which TWO would have been able to carry an airplane of that size. Stand beside a 777 and you realize that those engines are a kind of mobile power stations

Yesterday, close to SRtechnics stood the SCFA Super Constellation, just beside some A330 and A320, and you could realize how small the once impressive transatlantic airliner is if compared with those modern jetliners
Tu 95's are also still dicking around.
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Still no news on the 797 then.
I'm more interested on what they name the one after that. 808% 807? 708? 7007?
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I heard it will start with "9". 909-100 would be the first in series.
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