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Old 12.02.2015, 17:38
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8th March 2015 voting

Anybody got views on this?

There 2 proposals on my voting paper.

1. To subsidise education/training for children by increasing taxes. Sounds OK in principle but why limit it to children? People are no longer in jobs for life; they haver several careers so also need training when mature.
Aside from which I will have to think about whether I want to pay more tax to support other people's children.

2. To increase tax on non-renewable energy sources and to use the income to replace MWST, they claim this will be climate friendly.
Strangely they have included electricity in the list of non-renewable energy sources but there are no oil or coal power stations here?
Do not think I will support this one; I do not see extra taxes as a solution and anyway my experience is that once a new tax is introduced it never goes away and is never used for the planned purpose.
I still remember when parking meters were introduced in UK as a temporary measure; the story was the income would be used for building off-street parking!.
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Re: 8th March 2015 voting

As per this official document of 2009, "Hydropower plants contributed 56.1% to overall electricity production, followed by nuclear power plants (39.0%) and conventional thermal and other power plants (4.9%)".

http://www.bfe.admin.ch/energie/0058...n&msg-id=26388


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Anybody got views on this?

There 2 proposals on my voting paper.

1. To subsidise education/training for children by increasing taxes. Sounds OK in principle but why limit it to children? People are no longer in jobs for life; they haver several careers so also need training when mature.
Aside from which I will have to think about whether I want to pay more tax to support other people's children.

2. To increase tax on non-renewable energy sources and to use the income to replace MWST, they claim this will be climate friendly.
Strangely they have included electricity in the list of non-renewable energy sources but there are no oil or coal power stations here?
Do not think I will support this one; I do not see extra taxes as a solution and anyway my experience is that once a new tax is introduced it never goes away and is never used for the planned purpose.
I still remember when parking meters were introduced in UK as a temporary measure; the story was the income would be used for building off-street parking!.

I already voted NO to both suggestions
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Yes, there is at least one.

Somewhere in the romandie.

And the first one is to eliminate taxes on child subsidies, says nothing about raising taxes.

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Yes, there is at least one.

Somewhere in the romandie.

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Nope.

In the context of taking nuclear power plants offline (Atomausstieg), electricity companies are planning fossil plants, but so far none are being built or running.

The only electricity plants running on burning stuff today run on biological gas (Biogas) produced by cattle, sewage plants or other, or on waste, or on other non-fossil fuel such as wood.

See http://www.eschlikon.ch/documents/St...on_Schweiz.pdf
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Yes, there is at least one.

Somewhere in the romandie.

And the first one is to eliminate taxes on child subsidies, says nothing about raising taxes.

Tom
There was one natural gas plant in lower VS that is planned to enter into service in 2018. It seems to be stalled for the moment due to the cost of CO2 compensation.


Link: http://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/393674...e-en-2018.html

Link: http://www.alpiq.ch/fr/medias/dossie...rmal-power.jsp
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Re: 8th March 2015 voting

And the results are in.

The CVP familyinitiative has been voted down by 75% to 25%.

The GLP Energy tax initiative has been hammered by 92% to 8%.

That's the second heaviest defeat for an initiative in Swiss history.
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Re: 8th March 2015 voting

No suprise that it failed on badly.. In a country where they say no to 6 weeks holiday for all because they are worried of it impacting KMUs/companies, there is jo way they would drop the security of the VAT
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No, it failed because no one wants to pay CH5/liter for fuel.

And, had it passed, everyone simply would go over the border to purchase fuel, so it was a totally dumb idea.

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