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Old 31.05.2008, 22:14
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Don't forget to vote (incl. discussion on Naturalisation referendum)

Tomorrow is voting day. Celebrate the fact you live in a democracy. If you are able to vote, then vote! I just hope you know what you are voting for.
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Old 31.05.2008, 22:19
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Re: Don't forget to vote

I hope the SVP Naturalisation initiative fails, but I have a bad feeling it will get through. I believe a right to appeal should exist in every system.
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Old 31.05.2008, 22:21
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I hope it fails too. The national votes are easy, but I brood about the communal issues, congres house particularly...
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Old 31.05.2008, 22:34
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Re: Don't forget to vote

Having been a foreigner myself in Switzerland for 28 years and only a Swiss for the past 5 years, I think this initiative is a disgrace for the country and should be rejected by anyone who believes in a fair and just treatment of all human beings, regardless of background, religion, culture, belief, ethnicity or nationality. Just my 5 Rappen.
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Old 31.05.2008, 22:49
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Re: Don't forget to vote

I hope you execute your right to vote, then.

By the way, I love voting at the ballot box. If you go late enough, you'll sometimes spot a citizen running for his right to vote on your way home. Haha.
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Old 31.05.2008, 23:16
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I hope the SVP Naturalisation initiative fails, but I have a bad feeling it will get through. I believe a right to appeal should exist in every system.
I also hope that they loose BTW I hate their Massen-Einbürgerung STOP stupid slogan..........
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Re: Don't forget to vote

Fingers crossed for a NO to all three federal votes.
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Old 01.06.2008, 14:25
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Ain't looking bad, cantons AG, SH, NW, AR and GL voted 3x No and ZH is leaning to No in the naturalisation initiative too...

Edit: Add ZG, SO, OW, UR, GE, JU to the 3x Nos.
A 59.5% Yes for the naturalisation initiative in SZ...

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Re: Don't forget to vote

Seems to be over, with a resounding triple NO, according to TSR, Votations fédérales: triple non (Federal referendums, triple no):
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Les trois objets en votation fédérale vont être rejetés, selon les résultats définitifs et les projections de la SSR. L'initiative sur les naturalisations serait refusée par 64% des votants.
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The three items up for a federal vote will be rejected, according to final results and projections of the SSR. The initiative on naturalizations was refused by 64% of voters.
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Old 01.06.2008, 16:28
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Zurich, Berne, Ticino and Grisons are still counting but anything other than a firm no would be a surprise at this stage...
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Since canton Schwyz voted YES to the immigration inititative (as the only canton that reported results so far), does that mean that they can implement it or will they have to follow the national result?
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Old 01.06.2008, 16:41
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Since canton Schwyz voted YES to the immigration inititative (as the only canton that reported results so far), does that mean that they can implement it or will they have to follow the national result?
They will follow the national result. The No to the naturalisation initiative means that the constitution will not be changed according to the initiative text. Because of this, the two recent rulings of the Federal Court about naturalisation processes stay valid: They are based on the present constitution text.
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Re: Don't forget to vote

As someone without a vote, I don't get the official polling literature, know where the polling station, or know how votes are cast. Seeing results come in by lunchtime, thus leads me to ask what polling times are and is it an electronic ballot? I was quite addicted to the electoral process at home - though it was quite less frequent!
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My daughter holds a Swiss passport, is 18 and received her voters ballot by mail a few weeks ago. I strongly insisted she participate! Oh course she said "but papa, I don't know about any of this stuff and don't want to bother with it". I pointed out to her that all to often the young don't vote but the older (traditionally conservative) people do which means Right Wingers like Blocher and the SVP will make laws that YOU have to live under. She got interested very fast..! I'm proud to say my daughter participated and voted (you can guess for yourselves what she said NO on).
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Old 01.06.2008, 17:07
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As someone without a vote, I don't get the official polling literature, know where the polling station, or know how votes are cast. Seeing results come in by lunchtime, thus leads me to ask what polling times are and is it an electronic ballot? I was quite addicted to the electoral process at home - though it was quite less frequent!
Polls are open Saturday and close at noon Sunday. Ballot boxes are at the town hall. Larger communes would have additional boxes at schools or other municipal premises. Ballots are counted locally and hence relatively fast except in large cities.

Postal voting is very popular with busy professionals and the middle-aged. Elderly citizens like the ritual of voting personally.

Voting is compulsory in Canton Schaffhausen. Elsewhere participation rates can be as low as 30% (voter fatigue) unless there are emotional topics.

Electronic voting is now in a pilot stage. Some jurisdictions have experimented with SMS voting. Another few years and internet voting will be ubiquitous.
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Old 01.06.2008, 17:08
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As someone without a vote, I don't get the official polling literature, know where the polling station, or know how votes are cast. Seeing results come in by lunchtime, thus leads me to ask what polling times are and is it an electronic ballot? I was quite addicted to the electoral process at home - though it was quite less frequent!
The majority of voters vote by letter, the postage is usually paid by the municipality. These are the votes that get counted first when the (mostly) volunteers start around 9 in the morning.

Every commune has at least one voting box too. In Zurich they're open on Saturday and/or Sunday morning. They close at midday. To my knowledge no communes use electronic ballots and after some of the experiences that were made abroad, I'd prefer if it stays that way!
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Old 01.06.2008, 17:55
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Re: Don't forget to vote

Frosting on the cake: in the Zürich municipal election the Green Ruth Genner beat the SVP Mauro Tuena by an impressive margin: 48,895 to 23,276 (La Verte Ruth Genner élue à la municipalité de Zurich). That's a bit better than 2:1!!
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Old 01.06.2008, 18:07
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Congratulations on the defeat of the Einbürgerung initiative. My compliments to the Swiss voters for choosing reason over fear.
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The Swiss should be proud at the result of today's voting. Unfortunately, the rest of the world will, once again, only hear about the "grabbing hands" poster, just as we saw last time around with the black sheep.

Thankfully, and to my surprise, Toronto's Globe and Mail picked up not only the run up to the story but is now covering the positive results. They still have some of the details wrong, but at least they are giving the positive news the same coverage as they did the "negative".
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Old 01.06.2008, 18:47
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Re: Don't forget to vote

Our voting place is open from 9-10 in the morning on Sunday! You can drop in & vote before you go to church services...

Needless to say, most people vote by post. You get the ballot a few weeks before, fill out the paper & drop it in the post or in the voting box at the town hall.
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