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Old 24.12.2016, 10:52
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The Swiss are about 30 years behind the UK in this regard.
Same as their selfish attitude to smoking.
And rightly so.

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Old 24.12.2016, 11:21
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And that's one of the huge differences between the U.K. And Switzerland. In England the government has managed to attach stigma to drink driving, it is generally seen as stupid, not cool and dangerous. Here people don't give a toss which is bad news for pedestrians and other road users killed by pissed drivers.
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The Swiss are about 30 years behind the UK in this regard.
Same as their selfish attitude to smoking.
Oh you wonderful, enlightened creatures. How lucky we are to be the chosen people to be lead to perfection by your wisdom and your grace. In order to show open shame about all the stigmatization you devote to us so generously we shall wear the white cross on our sleaves for everyone to see how backward and inferior we still are while we keep aiming for perfection which is defined by your almighty wisdom. Forgive us our difficulties to see the light, for we know not what we do. Merry Christmas.


Or maybe we'll just say fu*k you and keep living happily in freedom, following our personal moral values, loosely based on Schiller.
After all, we seem to be rather attractive - not that we care about that really.
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Old 24.12.2016, 11:41
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I find her DUI not that important. One may draw conclusions on her, but that may be dubious. And a sizeable portion of the population is probably guilty of the same, albeit without having been caught and perhaps with a bit less of alcohol.
I agree, it's none of my business.
It's the way she handled it. I do not want to be represented by someone who's line of argumentation is like this.
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Oh you wonderful, enlightened creatures. How lucky we are to be the chosen people to be lead to perfection by your wisdom and your grace. In order to show open shame about all the stigmatization you devote to us so generously we shall wear the white cross on our sleaves for everyone to see how backward and inferior we still are while we keep aiming for perfection which is defined by your almighty wisdom. Forgive us our difficulties to see the light, for we know not what we do. Merry Christmas.


Or maybe we'll just say fu*k you and keep living happily in freedom, following our personal moral values, loosely based on Schiller.
After all, we seem to be rather attractive - not that we care about that really.
brilliantly demonstrating my point.

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Old 24.12.2016, 12:07
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And that's one of the huge differences between the U.K. And Switzerland. In England the government has managed to attach stigma to drink driving, it is generally seen as stupid, not cool and dangerous. Here people don't give a toss which is bad news for pedestrians and other road users killed by pissed drivers.
What a load of rubbish. Of course, they care. Very much, in fact. The fines are heavy now, you lose your license, insurance goes up and there is a stigma if you're caught. However, the stigma of being caught driving too fast is beginning to wane due to all the sneaky cameras and lack of clear signalling of speed limits.
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Old 24.12.2016, 12:14
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How much do you have to drink to get to 1.92? Is it easy? I imagine it's not a level of someone who only had one or two unless they were very large glasses.
Over four hours for me it would be about 7 pints (5% beer), or just under 2 bottles of wine. For my wife, about 4 pints or 1 bottle of wine.

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And rightly so.

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Could you clarify here Tom- are you saying so in respect to drink driving too?
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Old 24.12.2016, 12:29
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Over four hours for me it would be about 7 pints (5% beer), or just under 2 bottles of wine. For my wife, about 4 pints or 1 bottle of wine.

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Wow, according to this I can drink a bottle of wine in 6 hours and be on 0.00%.
Well, that is not how I feel when I do
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Could you clarify here Tom- are you saying so in respect to drink driving too?
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Old 24.12.2016, 12:59
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Some folk sometimes just enjoy winding other people up. Cat among the pigeons to liven up a slow morning.
It's the Christmas spirt gotten a hold on me.

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Old 24.12.2016, 13:31
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WE followed a guy the other day going home after a pre Xmas party- we couldn't overtake as he was slowly hitting one curb, bouncing back until he hit the other, and back again- mind you that was in France- fortunately for him as on our side it would have ended differently.
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And that's one of the huge differences between the U.K. And Switzerland. In England the government has managed to attach stigma to drink driving, it is generally seen as stupid, not cool and dangerous. Here people don't give a toss which is bad news for pedestrians and other road users killed by pissed drivers.
You're misunderstanding. Context. It's all about context.

What I do mean is that her DUI is none of the public's business, assuming it's not a repeat offense. She did the deed, got caught, she'll pay the price - that's it. Trying to get out of it by abusing her connections, position and power is what makes it a matter of public interest.
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It's the Christmas spirt gotten a hold on me.

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At last Perrin was so drugged up and so drunk- he was past the argumentative stage and couldn't put two words together. Yes, head of police dpt- they knew he had driven in in that state, and that he got at the wheel to return home.

Nothing, zilch, nada.
Perhaps you could have stopped him e.g. by offering to drive him, alternatively you could have reported him. Why didn't you?
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You're misunderstanding. Context. It's all about context.

What I do mean is that her DUI is none of the public's business, assuming it's not a repeat offense. She did the deed, got caught, she'll pay the price - that's it. Trying to get out of it by abusing her connections, position and power is what makes it a matter of public interest.
Apologies, I misunderstood your point.

I agree with your conclusions above.
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Old 24.12.2016, 14:10
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Perhaps you could have stopped him e.g. by offering to drive him, alternatively you could have reported him. Why didn't you?
Makes a crap story.
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Or maybe we'll just say fu*k you and keep living happily in freedom, following our personal moral values, loosely based on Schiller.
After all, we seem to be rather attractive - not that we care about that really.
Freedom. The freedom to drink drive, poison people with your smoke, to shoot bears and wolves, to look down your noses at foreigners and stand by with your hands in your pockets as wars are fought.

I'll leave that there.
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Freedom. The freedom to drink drive, poison people with your smoke, to shoot bears and wolves, to look down your noses at foreigners and stand by with your hands in your pockets as wars are fought.

I'll leave that there.
Yep. Amongst other things. Disgusting, abi?
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Freedom. The freedom to drink drive, poison people with your smoke, to shoot bears and wolves, to look down your noses at foreigners and stand by with your hands in your pockets as wars are fought.
Shoot bears and wolves?



Since when were we discussing the US?

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Over four hours for me it would be about 7 pints (5% beer), or just under 2 bottles of wine. For my wife, about 4 pints or 1 bottle of wine.

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That calculator is flawed. Where it asks you, "drank from", if you choose spirits, you can't select "straight from the bottle", just saying.
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