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Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Cautionary tale?

Should bang him up for agreeing to do it in the first place and allowing the father in to take photos. Father should be jailed for wanting to have his child's genitals mutilated. When are countries going to start banning this practice?

Doctor faces Swiss court for cutting off boy’s penis during circumcision

Doctor faces trial for cutting off 4yo boy's penis during circumcision
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Well that's going to reduce that gene pool by one...
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Old 30.03.2017, 10:57
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Well that's going to reduce that gene pool by one...
Most likely without the consent of the poor little 4 year old, though.
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Old 30.03.2017, 11:02
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

I'll start the flaming

tl;dr: Should any genital mutilation be allowed? Make or female?



I'm sure that forgiving imaginary friend will let you off (if invoked under religious freedom), if you don't mutilate your child.

Or, if you are a Merkin, get a ing grip: evolutionary pressures decided that foreskins confer an advantage somehow, even if you don't know that reason yet

Also see https://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=circumcision for how to mutilate your child
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Old 30.03.2017, 11:10
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Does it not seem like a rather big huge slip up to go from removing a foreskin to chopping someones willy off?

I remember when I was a kid I was ice skating with a friend and I accidentally circumcised him
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Disgusting and abhorrent practice. Should be banned worldwide. Excluding valid medical reasons ("i think it's cleaner" and "may prevent problems further along" are not valid reasons)
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Poor Kid! Father should also face the music along with doctor. What is KESB doing?
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Male circumcision prevalence (not rate) by country according to the World Health Organization's 2007 review of the global trends and determinants of prevalence, safety, and acceptability of circumcision
Red>80% prevalence
Orange>20-80% prevalence
Yellow<20% prevalence
Grey>Not available
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Old 30.03.2017, 11:57
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Cautionary tale?

Should bang him up for agreeing to do it in the first place and allowing the father in to take photos. Father should be jailed for wanting to have his child's genitals mutilated. When are countries going to start banning this practice?
Very popular in Africa and the U.S.

Perhaps Africans ought to try and move into the 21st century?

The U.S. appears to be going the other way.
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Disgusting and abhorrent practice. Should be banned worldwide. Excluding valid medical reasons ("i think it's cleaner" and "may prevent problems further along" are not valid reasons)
Heard that circumcised males are also better lovers.
How about that?

(just trying to explain the groan you got from st2lemans)
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Taking photos??????
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Perhaps Africans ought to try and move into the 21st century?
Its promoted by the WHO in Africa for HIV prevention (properly done of course)

Male circumcision for HIV prevention


There is compelling evidence that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%. Three randomized controlled trials have shown that male circumcision provided by well trained health professionals in properly equipped settings is safe. WHO/UNAIDS recommendations emphasize that male circumcision should be considered an efficacious intervention for HIV prevention in countries and regions with heterosexual epidemics, high HIV and low male circumcision prevalence.

Male circumcision provides only partial protection, and therefore should be only one element of a comprehensive HIV prevention package which includes: the provision of HIV testing and counseling services; treatment for sexually transmitted infections; the promotion of safer sex practices; the provision of male and female condoms and promotion of their correct and consistent use.

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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

Remember this mutilation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt
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Old 30.03.2017, 13:23
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Cautionary tale?

Should bang him up for agreeing to do it in the first place and allowing the father in to take photos. Father should be jailed for wanting to have his child's genitals mutilated. When are countries going to start banning this practice?

Doctor faces Swiss court for cutting off boy’s penis during circumcision

Doctor faces trial for cutting off 4yo boy's penis during circumcision
Don't need a doctor, my wife is quite sufficient !
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Old 30.03.2017, 13:25
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Re: Doctor cuts off boys penis during circumcision

I think it would be better to target FGM before tackling circumcision. While, technically, circumcision is genital mutilation, FGM is far more serious in terms of long term health. Also FGM is designed to reduce/eliminate women experiencing sexual pleasure - circumcision of the penis does not have anything like the same consequences. Except when the knife slips as in this case...
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Old 30.03.2017, 13:31
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I think it would be better to target FGM before tackling circumcision. While, technically, circumcision is genital mutilation, FGM is far more serious in terms of long term health. Also FGM is designed to reduce/eliminate women experiencing sexual pleasure - circumcision of the penis does not have anything like the same consequences. Except when the knife slips as in this case...
Although doing such a surgical procedure in a doctor's surgery is also a bit eyebrow-raising. I know term it as a "minor" procedure but, nonetheless, there seems to be too much scope for it to go wrong: the child having the ability to wriggle to such an extent the entire penis is severed, the fact that photographs were able to be taken (WTF?) by the father, not to mention the doctor driving around "for hours" looking for a solution instead of carting the child off to hospital for immediate treatment.
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Heard that circumcised males are also better lovers.
How about that?

(just trying to explain the groan you got from st2lemans)
I'll take any groans for whatever reason on this. I'm not against circumcision. I'm just firmly against the practice of doing it to babies and children. There should be informed consent for elective procedures.

Perhaps I should have been more clear, the ownership of kids genitals, especially to cut bits off, should be banned.

Circumcision per se, fine with me if that's what the owner of the penis wants. And he is over 18.
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...Male circumcision provides only partial protection, and therefore should be only one element of a comprehensive HIV prevention package which includes: the provision of HIV testing and counseling services; treatment for sexually transmitted infections; the promotion of safer sex practices; the provision of male and female condoms and promotion of their correct and consistent use.
One element in a pile of other things... by itself, kinda pointless.
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Its promoted by the WHO in Africa for HIV prevention (properly done of course)

Male circumcision for HIV prevention


There is compelling evidence that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%. Three randomized controlled trials have shown that male circumcision provided by well trained health professionals in properly equipped settings is safe. WHO/UNAIDS recommendations emphasize that male circumcision should be considered an efficacious intervention for HIV prevention in countries and regions with heterosexual epidemics, high HIV and low male circumcision prevalence.

Male circumcision provides only partial protection, and therefore should be only one element of a comprehensive HIV prevention package which includes: the provision of HIV testing and counseling services; treatment for sexually transmitted infections; the promotion of safer sex practices; the provision of male and female condoms and promotion of their correct and consistent use.

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What are the incidence rates of STDs in babies?
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What are the incidence rates of STDs in babies?
Part of then answer depends upon the mother's health (and diseases) during pregnancy.
And part of her health may depend upon the health of the people with whom she has had sex.

https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/top...es/infant.aspx
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