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Guest 04.05.2017 09:04

Press freedom in Switzerland?
 
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last night the police helicopter was flying over my village for a hour but nothing in the news.

I am assuming it has something to do with the major crimes from the last few days but why isn't anything in the news? Is it normal for people to stay calm nothing unusual about a police helicopter flying low over your village in the night for an hour with lights and sensors

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...outerie-98805/

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...raeuber-98705/

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...naufruf-98643/

Slaphead 04.05.2017 09:39

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781319)
last night the police helicopter was flying over my vilage for a hour but nothing in the news.

I am assuming it has something to do with the major crimes from the last few days but I why isnt anything in the news? Like its normal for people to stay calm nothing unusual about a police helicopter flying low over your village for an hour with lights and sensors

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...outerie-98805/

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...raeuber-98705/

http://www.polizeiticker.ch/news/art...naufruf-98643/

That's right - nothing particularly unusual in that. Especially as it's over the Dietikon Spreitenbach area which are both quite largely populated.

This kind of thing is an every day occurrence in and around Zürich, and Dietikon is around Zürich.

Guest 04.05.2017 09:48

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I am sure they also use the controversial scanning and hacking devices to locate certain individuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

to be clear I like it I think its cool and I support the police but I wish there was more information available when there are such large operations underway... because clearly people can see and hear the large police presence in the night with lights...

roegner 04.05.2017 09:53

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781334)

to be clear I like it I think its cool and I support the police but I wish there was more information available when there are such large operations underway... because clearly people can see and hear the large police presence in the night with lights...


So what and why is the need to announce this? They won´t do that just for fun and if they are searching for someone/something, fine.


And really, press freedom?? Come on, ask the German "Die Welt" Journalist in Turkey...

Castro 04.05.2017 09:54

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They were probably transmitting an OTA firmware update to Mindkontrol 3.0

Guest 04.05.2017 09:55

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because I think the news are very scared to report about the police in switzerland. The news only report word for word press releases put out by the police but never actually independently report about the police

roegner 04.05.2017 09:59

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781339)
because I think the news are very scared to report about the police in switzerland. The news only report word for word press releases put out by the police but never actually independently report about the police



You may read up again on freedom of press, what that means.


I see enough articles on the police here.

AbFab 04.05.2017 10:00

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781339)
because I think the news are very scared to report about the police in switzerland. The news only report word for word press releases put out by the police but never actually independently report about the police

Did you ask the police?

I had the same 10 years ago in Thalwil. A helicopter circled at about 11pm for 20 minutes. Phoned the police and they advised they were looking for someone with problems who has escaped from an institution and apologized for the disturbance.

The papers had more pressing matters to report...

Guest 04.05.2017 10:02

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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 2781343)
You may read up again on freedom of press, what that means.


I see enough articles on the police here.

every article about police action is literally word for work press release by the police. That is not news reporting...

roegner 04.05.2017 10:04

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781345)
every article about police action is literally word for work press release by the police. That is not news reporting...



Maybe change the newspaper? There is effective reporting on the police, army, whatever

Slaphead 04.05.2017 10:10

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Especially for you. Take your pick.

Sbrinz 04.05.2017 12:24

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Newspaper news sources, choose your region,

https://www.google.ch/search?q=poliz...&ie=&oe=#spf=1

mirfield 04.05.2017 12:39

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781339)
because I think the news are very scared to report about the police in switzerland. The news only report word for word press releases put out by the police but never actually independently report about the police

Depends what news source you use. If you're looking at 20 min or similar free news then you're going to get word for word press releases, word for word Reuters news or word for word Twitter/Facebook updates. That's the nature of these things.

You pay your money, you make your choice. If you find your newspaper unsatisfactory, then change to another.

Jim2007 04.05.2017 12:43

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781339)
because I think the news are very scared to report about the police in switzerland. The news only report word for word press releases put out by the police but never actually independently report about the police

Who exactly do you think news media are financed? Do you really think news papers, especially the size of most Swiss papers, are rolling in money and can afford to pay reporters to go check out your helicopter problem.

amogles 04.05.2017 12:47

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Absolutely. And I find that in Switzerland people are generally much better informed when it comes to local politics and affairs than they were back in the UK.

I guess this has something to do with direct democracy, and local councils actually having real powers, but also with the press reporting on these affairs in a serious and continuous manner.

curley 04.05.2017 13:55

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781319)
Is it normal for people to stay calm nothing unusual about a police helicopter flying low over your village in the night for an hour with lights and sensors?

Yes.

Apart from Blick and 20Minutes readers, nobody wants to know until there is a result.

Guest 04.05.2017 16:17

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 2781444)
Absolutely. And I find that in Switzerland people are generally much better informed when it comes to local politics and affairs than they were back in the UK.

I guess this has something to do with direct democracy, and local councils actually having real powers, but also with the press reporting on these affairs in a serious and continuous manner.

more because swiss are simple minded and the villages are small so gossip news travels fast. But seriously swiss generally have no idea of what is going on in the world they live in their own reality.

mirfield 04.05.2017 16:21

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Originally Posted by edzoom (Post 2781584)
more because swiss are simple minded and the villages are small so gossip news travels fast. But seriously swiss generally have no idea of what is going on in the world they live in their own reality.

You're just trolling now, aren't you?

curley 06.05.2017 00:20

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Originally Posted by ohmy (Post 2782268)
Quite a few people in Switzerland told me "you can't do anything against the police, they'll do whatever they want" and that always amazed me.

That is not true. I have done successfully several times - in different places. It didn't go public though. But I had no desire for it to go public, putting them in place and making them realize it can be done was enough for me.

cannut 06.05.2017 00:29

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PRESS Freedom! In my book also includes , not printing every little crap


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