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Old 10.07.2017, 19:16
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Provocation would be a sign saying don't kill jews you stupid gnorant Nazi. And then a Nazi going and killing a jew.

Incitement is a sign saying kill jews.

Hope that clears up the difference for you.
So in other words all slogans, whether for or against nazis, are converting people into nazis.

Good we cleared that one up.
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Old 10.07.2017, 20:17
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So in other words all slogans, whether for or against nazis, are converting people into nazis.

Good we cleared that one up.
Not quite sure where your logic comes from?

I was just pointing out to you, the difference between incitement and provocation in as siiiiiiiimple a way as I could.
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Old 10.07.2017, 21:18
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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

I've never seen Nazi's use "I :heart: Hitler"

Stupid kids on the other hand...

But to me this is forsure not the typical bold headed, Dr. Martens, Bomberjack, Landser or No Remorse listener. (Not many of those in this country btw)
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Old 10.07.2017, 22:09
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This morning:
07 July 2017
Nazi posters shock drivers on A3
On Friday morning unknowns have hung several banners with right-radical and anti-Semitic messages on motorway bridges.
I thought it was quiet on EF early that morning
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Old 10.07.2017, 22:29
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So in other words all slogans, whether for or against nazis, are converting people into nazis.

Good we cleared that one up.
Yep, a bit like "I have nothing against the Jews but....." or "One of my best friends is Jewish but...." but......
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Old 10.07.2017, 22:50
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I've never seen Nazi's use "I :heart: Hitler"
That stroke me as very odd as well. A proper (Neo)Nazi would have written "Heil Hitler" IMHO.
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Old 10.07.2017, 23:23
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That stroke me as very odd as well. A proper (Neo)Nazi would have written "Heil Hitler" IMHO.
I'd rather it rained cats and dogs than that it hailed Hitlers.
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Old 10.07.2017, 23:28
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That stroke me as very odd as well. A proper (Neo)Nazi would have written "Heil Hitler" IMHO.
Perhaps it was a Kinder, gentler, sort of Neonazi.
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Some people like autobahns. Some people like vegetarianism. Some people like German shepherd dogs. I don't think all reasonable people hate all things Hitler stands for, or should do so.
See what you just did there. You're looking for the exception to use it and formulate a new rule, trying to prove the bad guy is in reality good and ignoring everything that negates this wannabe new rule.

Look up moral/ethic relativism.
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I find it ironic to see pro LGBT groups wear che Guevara T-shirts seeing Che was anti gay.
The same thing as above, just this time around it's to "prove" the guy is bad.

Look up double standards.

*ing hypocrite!
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Old 11.07.2017, 01:24
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See what you just did there. You're looking for the exception to use it and formulate a new rule, trying to prove the bad guy is in reality good and ignoring everything that negates this wannabe new rule.

Look up moral/ethic relativism.
Look up the word context.

Look up the words taking stuff out of context.

Look up the concept of using your brain and seeking to understand before going ballistic or projecting your own dark thoughts onto the words of others.

Look up the words being a dick.

Where did I say Hitler was good?

If you cannot read and comprehend, kindly refrain from criticizing.

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The same thing as above, just this time around it's to "prove" the guy is bad.

Look up double standards.
I'll spare you the embarrassment of pointing out what an idiot you are.

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*ing hypocrite!
yeah, nice ad hominem.
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Old 11.07.2017, 02:01
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That stroke me as very odd as well. A proper (Neo)Nazi would have written "Heil Hitler" IMHO.
Nazis stroke you ??? Terrifying...
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Old 14.07.2017, 18:48
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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

These people with this kind of thought are all over the world.

Isn't that scary¨
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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

There's a German Lad in the area, very right wing.

Keeps compaining about the influx of non Swiss.

Ge dosn't work. He heads back to Germany every two weeks to pick up his benefits (He's playing at being too sick to work in Germany). Won't learn Swiss German, keeps compaining about the Swiss frank (no Euros).

The point is, he never gets it when I say that he makes me laugh out loud!!!

Most of the exteemists are mostly the same, they just climb on the bandwagon to have a reason to hate something. Dosn't matter what, just a reason to hate someone or thing. No idea about history etc.

If they support the idea of Hitler etc, then why don't they suport Erdogan, Putin many of the Arab States and so on? Isn't it the same all over again?

Nahhh, of course not. They're buisness partners in the Global Economy, they're good people.

Have a Good Weekend all you Efers, enjoy the better weather.

B B fr now

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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

Did you know that the Swiss air force has restored a nazi era airplane to its original nazi glory including the nazi symbols and is flying around switzerland and europe with it?

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/keyword/hb-hop

The Swiss supreme court ruled that making nazi gestures did not break the country's anti-racism law if the person giving it was only expressing their own convictions.


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Old 24.08.2017, 09:42
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Did you know that the Swiss air force has restored a nazi era airplane to its original nazi glory including the nazi symbols and is flying around switzerland and europe with it?

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/keyword/hb-hop

The Swiss supreme court ruled that making nazi gestures did not break the country's anti-racism law if the person giving it was only expressing their own convictions.


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Actually the Ju2 is a pre nazi era airliner from 1930-31 and the markings are at best fantasy. But then again there are plenty of restored Aircraft flying with historically correct Luftwaffe markings. Paul Allen flies a restored original FW190 with all the bells and whistles for instance.
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Old 24.08.2017, 09:46
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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

How is restoring an old plane "making nazi gestures"?

Particularly by an organisation that resisted the nazis during the war, so it's hardly "nazi glory" if it's being flown by a foreign airforce!

If the Swiss hadn't been neutral it would be exactly the opposite - historically spoils of war were shown off to mock the losers.
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Did you know that the Swiss air force has restored a nazi era airplane to its original nazi glory including the nazi symbols and is flying around switzerland and europe with it?
The markings were made for a film, and will be removed.

From the link:

" Note: Junkers Ju-52 wearing a fake Luftwaffe livery (likely to be removed in the coming days) for a new movie. "

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Re: Nazis in Switzerland

the model airplace was used to bomb various cities in Europe.
The swiss restore it and paint it nazi and fly over europe with it when in most countries it is illegal to make any nazi signs or salutes the swiss restore and celebrate it?



As a bomber the Ju 52 was involved, for example, in the bombing of Warsaw. In contrast to the use as a bomber, the Ju 52 / 3m but also the whole Second World War remained over the standard transport aircraft of the Luftwaffe
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the model airplace was used to bomb various cities in Europe.
The swiss restore it and paint it nazi and fly over europe with it when in most countries it is illegal to make any nazi signs or salutes the swiss restore and celebrate it?

As a bomber the Ju 52 was involved, for example, in the bombing of Warsaw. In contrast to the use as a bomber, the Ju 52 / 3m but also the whole Second World War remained over the standard transport aircraft of the Luftwaffe
But the this particular aeroplane was also used for good things by the allies too. They even flew it with swastikas painted on the side, as shown by this war time documentary:

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the model airplace was used to bomb various cities in Europe.
The swiss restore it and paint it nazi and fly over europe with it when in most countries it is illegal to make any nazi signs or salutes the swiss restore and celebrate it?



As a bomber the Ju 52 was involved, for example, in the bombing of Warsaw. In contrast to the use as a bomber, the Ju 52 / 3m but also the whole Second World War remained over the standard transport aircraft of the Luftwaffe
Read again St2lemans reply. There might be a reason why it is painted that way.
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