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omtatsat 19.10.2017 08:09

Initiative for organ donation
 
They want to make it compulsory that people donate organs at death. And if one wants it otherwise then it has to be specially registered. These Swiss!!

https://www.swisstransplant.org/de/o...lksinitiative/

Guest 19.10.2017 08:20

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Well you're not going to need them. Better have them put to some use rather than rot in the ground or turned into ash.

nickatbasel 19.10.2017 08:22

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
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Village Idiot 19.10.2017 08:26

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omtatsat (Post 2862395)
They want to make it compulsory that people donate organs at death. And if one wants it otherwise then it has to be specially registered. These Swiss!!

Um, not quite. They want to move to an opt-out (or 'presumed consent') system like Spain and Austria, which increases donor rates and means that more lives can be saved.

Still, no risk of them taking your heart for transplant if you haven't got one to start with. :rolleyes:

Guest 19.10.2017 08:28

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
It's been happening in Spain for years. It's the opt out system. It's understood you donate your organs unless you state otherwise.
About time it comes to other countries.

https://www.expatica.com/es/news/fea...ns_168383.html


http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/20/s...ns-305841.html

Rangatiranui 19.10.2017 08:41

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Marple (Post 2862404)
It's been happening in Spain for years. It's the opt out system. It's understood you donate your organs unless you state otherwise.
About time it comes to other countries.

https://www.expatica.com/es/news/fea...ns_168383.html


http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/20/s...ns-305841.html

Nope.

Not interested.

I have no problem with them taking my lungs, heart, spleen.. but i do not wish them to take any part of my eyes.
Superstition? Windows to the soul?
No idea. I want them to go with me to the grave(!!)

I even have it written on me donor card :msnnerd:

PaddyG 19.10.2017 08:47

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Due to mad-cow diseases in the UK in the 80s, my organs apparently aren't good enough for Swiss tastes. Therefore I was thinking of donating it to medical research when I'm done with it instead.

NotAllThere 19.10.2017 09:53

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Village Idiot (Post 2862401)
Um, not quite. They want to move to an opt-out (or 'presumed consent') system like Spain and Austria, which increases donor rates and means that more lives can be saved.

The UK is considering it now. Same arguments are being rolled as were used in Spain and Austria.

Personally, I'm in favour of opt-out. However, like Paddy, I'm British, so my organs are useless. :rolleyes:

Guest 19.10.2017 10:29

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2862409)
Due to mad-cow diseases in the UK in the 80s, my organs apparently aren't good enough for Swiss tastes. Therefore I was thinking of donating it to medical research when I'm done with it instead.

Yep, I'd have been perfectly happy to have been posthumously broken up for parts but, having been in the UK in the 80s, I ain't good enough. :(

Guest 19.10.2017 11:21

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2862409)
Due to mad-cow diseases in the UK in the 80s, my organs apparently aren't good enough for Swiss tastes. Therefore I was thinking of donating it to medical research when I'm done with it instead.

I'm quoting myself from another thread well, because I'm worth it...




"You can't give blood but you CAN donate your organs.


I asked at Swisstransplant and you CAN donate your organs even after living in the UK and Northern Ireland between 1980 and 1996.

I asked them how come you cannot give blood, but your bloody organs are accepted, and she replied that they wash away the blood before putting your bits on somebody else.

More info: http://www.swisstransplant.org/l4/or...ordinances.php


And you can create your own donor card online. Page in English"

Guest 19.10.2017 11:24

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Marple (Post 2862520)

I asked them how come you cannot give blood, but your bloody organs are accepted, and she replied that they wash away the blood before putting your bits on somebody else.

Gawd, now I've got a vision of someone in scrubs rinsing a kidney and a couple of eyeballs under the tap... :msnsick:

:msnblush:

JagWaugh 19.10.2017 11:27

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2862409)
Due to mad-cow diseases in the UK in the 80s, my organs apparently aren't good enough for Swiss tastes. Therefore I was thinking of donating it to medical research when I'm done with it instead.

You mean there's still research to be done in the cirrhosis, high fat diet, and sedentary lifestyle areas?

I'm probably going to be dropped off at a recycling center. The accumulated metal from working on stuff in my hands alone must be worth something to someone!

PaddyG 19.10.2017 11:32

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JagWaugh (Post 2862524)
You mean there's still research to be done in the cirrhosis, high fat diet, and sedentary lifestyle areas?

Watch it, buster :msnmad:.


Actually I'm quite interested in being plasticized, if they can't use me for anything useful.

JagWaugh 19.10.2017 11:41

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2862527)
Watch it, buster :msnmad:.


Actually I'm quite interested in being plasticized, if they can't use me for anything useful.

Plasticised? Like the Colonel Sanders they used to have at every KFC?

Tom1234 19.10.2017 11:46

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2862527)

Actually I'm quite interested in being plasticized, if they can't use me for anything useful.


Tom1234 19.10.2017 11:52

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Yep, I'd have been perfectly happy to have been posthumously broken up for parts but, having been in the UK in the 80s, I ain't good enough. :(
Do they stop some people from donating their organs due to unhealthy lifestyles?

I heard of one girl with cystic fibrosis who had a lung transplant with lungs from a smoker.

The poor girl then developed lung cancer and died.

A google found the story

This is the UK but still shocking:

Quote:

New figures show that in total, 35 per cent of all organs used in transplants now come from “higher risk” donors.
In the past three years, 39 per cent of lung transplants have come from donors who were smokers, according to a parliamentary answer by Earl Howe, health minister.

Ace1 19.10.2017 11:55

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
On a related note, I just read this that says that in practice many UK registered organ doners' bits are not being used due to family's not giving consent, even though they don't legally need it. Ridiculous - if someone's gone to the effort to register the family shouldn't have any say in the decision. Anyone know the current situation here?

Guest 19.10.2017 11:57

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 2862546)
Do they stop some people from donating their organs due to unhealthy lifestyles?

I heard of one girl with cystic fibrosis who had a lung transplant with lungs from a smoker.

The poor girl then developed lung cancer and died.

A google found the story

This is the UK but still shocking:

I dunno, but given that there are too few donors and too many people seem to be on the transplant register for so long that they slip off the mortal coil before they get a chance of a new organ, I guess beggars can't be choosers. :dunno:

You are allowed to refuse an organ, which is then passed onto the next recipient in line who has to be told that it was refused but not why.

MusicChick 19.10.2017 12:11

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JagWaugh (Post 2862524)
You mean there's still research to be done in the cirrhosis, high fat diet, and sedentary lifestyle areas?

I'm probably going to be dropped off at a recycling center. The accumulated metal from working on stuff in my hands alone must be worth something to someone!

No worries, there is hope. Although not sure how well metal travels.

https://www.magnetsource.com/Solutio...s/cowmags.html

Belgianmum 19.10.2017 12:12

Re: Initiative for organ donation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Marple (Post 2862404)
It's been happening in Spain for years. It's the opt out system. It's understood you donate your organs unless you state otherwise.
About time it comes to other countries.

https://www.expatica.com/es/news/fea...ns_168383.html


http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/20/s...ns-305841.html

It's was the same in Belgium too and had been since the law was introduced in 1987. Unless you actually opted out by going to the commune and filling out the forms everyone over the age of 18 was considered to be an organ donor. Parents still had to give their consent for children under the age of 18.

I'd be happy if somebody could make use of my clapped out organs when I'm dead, it's not as if I'd have any use for them then.


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