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Let the bells ring out

"A Swiss church can once again ring its bells throughout the night after a federal court overturned a legal decision to limit them to hourly peals.

The restriction was ordered in 2015 after a local couple complained about clangs between 22:00 and 07:00.

The 250-year-old Protestant church in Wädenswil, near Zurich, agreed to stop ringing the bells every 15 minutes.

But more than 2,000 residents campaigned against the decision, taking the dispute to the federal court .

The court, in Lausanne, overturned the earlier ruling on Wednesday, saying that reducing the number of night-time chimes would not have a significant effect on quality of life.

It also said that the nightly clanging was a part of Wädenswil's culture and local tradition, rejecting the result of a study that found the noise of the bells was loud enough to be disruptive if residents left their windows slightly open.

"We are delighted with this decision, not just for us, but for the town and the whole community," said Peter Meier, a member of the church's council.

"The bells are an important part of the town's feeling of home, and have long given a rhythm to people's lives here."

The couple behind the original complaint, who live around 200m from the church, were less impressed with the ruling. Alfred Naef said he and his wife were horrified that the bells could start ringing again more frequently.

However, Mr Meier cited an independent survey that found that 79% of residents said they were not disturbed by the bells.

"We are celebrating the church's 250th anniversary this year, and this is a very nice present to not have this hanging over us any more," he said."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42347033
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Re: Let the bells ring out

Don't people have their own clocks, watches and smart phones to tell the time these days?
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However, Mr Meier cited an independent survey that found that 79% of residents said they were not disturbed by the bells.
I wonder if there's a back story to this?
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Re: Let the bells ring out

If only I had one church within ear shot...

actually what miffes me off the most is that the church bells are not synchronized and by that I mean it's 14.15 in one village above us and then a minute and a half later, it's the same time in mine town... I am going to become swiss just to start a vote to get them in tune? am I ....
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Re: Let the bells ring out

Yeah, love how the mosque minarets are a problem, but the constant noise harassment of the pretty much useless church bells is not.
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I can't stand religion but have always loved church bells. Let 'em ring!
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I can't stand religion but have always loved church bells. Let 'em ring!
You probably don´t live next to them, I was in Berneck with the second loudest bells in Switzerland, they didn´t so much peal but detonate with a clang that only Quasimodo would have loved.

By the way, what´s Quasi´s favourite whiskey????







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Re: Let the bells ring out

and the UK too- many villages and towns in UK have got bells that ring through the night. At our local Church in the East Midlands, it is 4 bells per quarter, and then the hour- so at midnight 4 4 4 4 12 = 28 bells - and it goes right through.

Peels for Sunday services, weddings, funerals and 1.5 hr practice for bell ringers on Mondays. The steeple with the bells is right opposite my bedroom window (love it)

So saying this is a particular Swiss thing is plain daft.
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Re: Let the bells ring out

And that is on BBC news?
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I can't stand religion but have always loved church bells. Let 'em ring!
I like them too. I used to live opposite one here. Used to ring for about fifteen minutes every time I was on a conference call to the US West cost at 18.00.

I like them but they serve many purposes - calling people to prayer, announcing events including funerals and weddings and telling people the time.

I'm not sure the last reason is really necessary every fifteen minutes through the night any more.
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Old 14.12.2017, 10:37
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Re: Let the bells ring out

In the good old days, the church bell ringing was done by bell ringer.
There were fortunately too few of them, and they were not in the habit of staying up for long hours, to cause distress and sleep loss in the local population.
Now these have been replaced with an electronic melody and a time switch and can be active 24 Hours per day.

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Old 14.12.2017, 11:04
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Re: Let the bells ring out

Every 15 minutes? That's excessive. Even I, a devoted good Catholic woman, would go bonkers with that much ringing in my ears.
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Old 14.12.2017, 11:41
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Re: Let the bells ring out

If somebody builds a new church next door, I can understand thse cause for concern.

But if a church has been where it is for hundreds of years, and neighbours decide they don't like bells, it makes me wonder how well they researched the area before moving in.

Personally I find other sources of noise, such as traffic, drunks revelling and neighbours having loud arguments in the middle of the night much more disturbing.
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If somebody builds a new church next door, I can understand thse cause for concern.

But if a church has been where it is for hundreds of years, and neighbours decide they don't like bells, it makes me wonder how well they researched the area before moving in.

Personally I find other sources of noise, such as traffic, drunks revelling and neighbours having loud arguments in the middle of the night much more disturbing.
OK. But even an old church can quickly be retrofitted with the equivalent of a one hundred acoustic watt electronic door chime.
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Old 14.12.2017, 12:32
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I wonder if there's a back story to this?
Bit more background from Swissinfo here:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/ringing-...-town/42361622

I thought there was a thread re this story, but I couldn't find it.

It's down to anyone moving to do their research. I made sure hubby knew when he came over and started looking for a permanent place that too near a church wasn't a good idea.

Same with traffic noise. We knew when we bought our house it was over the main road and we'd get more noise - so no point in complaining about it. If we couldn't live with it, we shouldn't have bought the house.
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I can't stand religion but have always loved church bells. Let 'em ring!
This is what I wake-up to (about 4 houses down) at 7am every week morning, then again at 11am. A bit later at weekends.

And on the mark of every 15 minutes and each hour during the night. Feels like a village (as it's otherwise very quiet although central), and after a while you only notice it if it's not there if they record a concert in the church.

Of course there are days when you can't sleep and then need earplugs, but I will miss them if we move.

The part starts on 1:18 of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXsAECvzdEk
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Re: Let the bells ring out

However, Mr Meier cited an independent survey that found that 79% of residents said they were not disturbed by the bells.


In other words, 21% of residents ARE disturbed by the bells*. That's quite a lot.


*(actually, not strictly true, since we have no way of knowing how this mystery study was carried out or what the choices were, but you get the point)
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And on the mark of every 15 minutes and each hour during the night.
I miss the nighttime "ting tang" from the church clocktower where I used to live.
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I can't stand religion but have always loved church bells. Let 'em ring!
Same here!

I have two bell towers near me. One, a school that has a simple bell ever quarter hour from 7 - 22. A little further away is a catholic church which also rings 7 - 22, but at certain times goes a little crazy with the ringing (9:50 on a Sunday, for instance, to remind those slackers to get their butts to church!)

Video here, although I didn't have the patience to stand there for the entirety of the catholic clanging. And the much more relaxed school bell (file footage! There is currently no snow in Basel )
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