http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/ostschwe...as-ab-27027811

I have added a link to an article in English. Here it is again for your comfort: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/several...orest/44300928
Hope this helps.

Bad and sad news

The which crashed plane is a Ju-52
https://www.ju-air.ch/en/top-news/

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/panoram...story/25721979
https://www.lematin.ch/suisse/avion-...story/26503286

"In a separate crash in canton Graubünden on Saturday afternoon, an aircraft was reported to have gone down at Piz Segnas, at an altitude of over 2,000 metres. Several helicopters were involved in a recovery operation, and it remained unclear in the early evening how many, if any, victims were involved."

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/plane/44300776

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It doesn’t look good I’m afraid. A JU-52 has 17 seats.

Looking at the photo from a rescue chopper i can’t see how anyone got out of that.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bbf2069&opt=0

Sad to see another Ju crash (in Germany they call them Tante Ju (aunt Ju)). Lovely planes. happy to have been on one.

I do hope people managed to get safely out!

So, just another junker.

Tom

Yep, same here, Tante Ju.
Aren't these the very slow ones, where you wonder how they keep up there?

There are reports of 20 people in the GR crash. We watched lots of helicopter and fire service activity up and down the Sernftal valley GL on the North side of Piz Segnas yesterday evening.

Yes, these birds are usually fully booked. That’s 17 pax and 3 crew.

Possibly they were caught in a downdraft, they can be pretty bad in this kind of weather. I suppose we’ll have to wait for the STSB investigation.

Any particular reason versus you found it necessary to groan at this? Or are you just groaning at anything some people write??

Reason?! You imply there is some logic at play here, when there is not.

Headlines and articles clearly state there was loss of life.

Two days of peace and quiet now :-)

She won´t be back until August 7

Great! Only one irritation now: the heat

Can someone please ask the mods to ban the heat?

People getting out safely and loss of life are not mutually exclusive you know ? ( not the same people obviously)
It doesn’t seem likely in this case but it was still a possibility when roegner made her comment.

Very sad news indeed the loss of life and of a piece of history that was lovingly maintained for so many years. Considering that they only let very experienced pilots fly those oldtimers, something unusual must have occurred. I actually was lucky enough to be a passenger on this plane many years ago and remember how excited and thrilled everyone on board was - including the pilots. Such a dreadful end to what was probably a "once in a lifetime" experience for many on board.
RIP, blue skies and tailwinds forever.

It appears that the JU-52 crashed vertically at speed and hadn't hit any cables etc. All 20 on board killed

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bbf2069

Made the Beeb news as well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45076060

The STBS has published its final report on the JU-52 HB-HOT crash.

From the press release:

15 recommendations to improve safety following the crash of the Ju 52

The Swiss Transportation Safety Investigation Board (STSB) has published the final report on the crash of the Ju 52 aeroplane near Flims (canton of Grisons, Switzerland) on 4 August 2018. In its report, the STSB concludes that a number of different factors led to the accident. To improve aviation safety, the STSB has issued eight safety recommendations to the supervisory authority and seven points of safety advice to the companies concerned. The investigation does not establish blame or determine liability.

On 4 August 2018, a historic Junkers Ju 52 commercial aircraft known as ‘Iron Annie’, operated by Ju-Air, crashed near Flims in Switzerland. All 20 people on board lost their lives. The STSB investigated the accident in order to identify the cause of the crash. The STSB published the final report on this accident on 28 January 2021. In its report, the STSB concludes that the pilots’ actions led to the crash. Errors on the part of air operator Ju-Air – as well as negligence by the supervisory authority, the Federal Office of Civil Aviation (FOCA) – contributed to the circumstances in which such an accident could occur.

High-risk piloting was a direct cause of the accident

The STSB established that the pilots’ high-risk flying was a direct cause of the accident. When entering the narrow valley south-west of Piz Segnas, the flight crew piloted the aircraft at low altitude, with no possibility of an alternative flight path and at an airspeed that was dangerously low for the circumstances. As to be expected in the mountains in close proximity to the terrain, the aeroplane flew through turbulences in this valley. The high-risk manner of flying through these not unusual turbulences caused the pilots to lose control of the aircraft. The aeroplane was flying too low to allow enough space to rectify the situation, and as a result it almost vertically hit the ground.

Underlying factors contributed to the accident

In its report, the STSB identifies, among other things, the following underlying factors that contributed to the accident:
• The centre of gravity of the aeroplane was beyond the rear limit during the flight in question. This dangerous situation was caused by inadequate flight preparation and errors in the Ju-Air software.
• The pilots of the accident flight, and also a number of other pilots, had become accustomed – when working for Ju-Air – to not complying with rules for safe flight operations and taking high risks even with passengers on board.
• Ju-Air failed to recognise the significant risks in its flight operations. Furthermore, the air operator failed to prevent its pilots from repeatedly violating the rules.
• Various requirements which are intended to ensure a high level of safety for commercial passenger air transport had not been met for some time.
• FOCA’s supervisory activities failed to identify numerous safety problems at Ju-Air or were ineffective.

Further risks identified and safety recommendations made

In addition to these underlying factors, the STSB identified other risks – including that the aircraft involved in the accident was in improper mechanical condition – however, these did not contribute to the accident.

To improve aviation safety, the STSB has issued eight safety recommendations and seven points of safety advice in its report. The safety recommendations are addressed to FOCA as the competent supervisory authority and are intended to facilitate effective operational and technical supervision. With regards to the safety advice, the STSB is addressing the air operator Ju-Air as well as the aircraft maintenance organisations concerned. The purpose of this advice is to improve operational aspects within the organisations and to help identify and mitigate risks in a more safety-conscious manner.

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I wonder if Ju-Air flights will ever resume.

The report does not reflect well on the organization's staff or maintenance practices.