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04.09.2018, 19:10
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Well the working hours are also to blame. If you want your extra 1 hour in summer then start work one hour earlier. | | | | | Or do as the Swedes do.
Virtually everybody there is off during the summer, and business life virtually grinds to a standstill.
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04.09.2018, 19:17
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Or do as the Swedes do.
Virtually everybody there is off during the summer, and business life virtually grinds to a standstill. | | | | | Same in Italy (or Ticino).
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04.09.2018, 19:20
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Same in Italy (or Ticino).
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Pretty much in Fribourg/Bern too, work is a graveyard in July.
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05.09.2018, 00:08
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: |  | | | What are you talking about, you crazy individual? Europe is divided very neatly into three separate time zones, by the easy-to-follow red lines shown on this map. I can't imagine where you get your dangerous, communist notions from! 
(Wow, there's a lot of typos in that map!) | | | | | That's weird. The map that I refer to above disappeared from my previous post. Here it is again.
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12.09.2018, 19:59
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13.09.2018, 15:03
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | And then it will remain dark in the middle of winter till 8am. So much for the saving of energy. And who wants to always go to work in the dark. As i say they are playing with fire these stupid burocrats. People will get depressed. More wars more suicides....the list goes on! | | | | | Yes, because the chief reason people get depressed is the time zone.
Im not sure what country you're living in, but in winter, most people will go to work when its dark or pretty close to, already. Virtually every aspect of commuting is already well lit, so this argument about going to work in the dark being terrible is a bit silly. Its the 21st century, for crying out loud.
No more people then normal will develop depression, there will be just as many suicides, and as for wars...pretty sure no country in Europe has gone to war because of the time.
The Chronologist in the article seems silly too. Yes, people would wake up earlier, but they would also go to bed earlier. The vast majority of people go to bed around a certain time each day, and curtains will solve any light issues. There are countries in Europe where the sun doesn't set at all for weeks on end, so tell me again how having an hour more light in the evening is going to doom us all?
There should be no net effect on the sleep balance of schoolchildren. I'm all for it. changing the clocks is a throwback to a time when we didnt have modern technology. Time to come into the 21st century and not arse around with changing the clocks twice a year.
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13.09.2018, 18:36
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | As the article says: Wintertime is the "normal" time.
In my opinion the thing about the students is nonsense.
Oh, and if we go back to "wintertime" maybe those exhausted - and therefore endlessly screaming - little children will be put to bed again as it used to be done with tired, little children | This user would like to thank curley for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2018, 21:06
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, because the chief reason people get depressed is the time zone.
Im not sure what country you're living in, but in winter, most people will go to work when its dark or pretty close to, already. Virtually every aspect of commuting is already well lit, so this argument about going to work in the dark being terrible is a bit silly. Its the 21st century, for crying out loud.
No more people then normal will develop depression, there will be just as many suicides, and as for wars...pretty sure no country in Europe has gone to war because of the time.
The Chronologist in the article seems silly too. Yes, people would wake up earlier, but they would also go to bed earlier. The vast majority of people go to bed around a certain time each day, and curtains will solve any light issues. There are countries in Europe where the sun doesn't set at all for weeks on end, so tell me again how having an hour more light in the evening is going to doom us all?
There should be no net effect on the sleep balance of schoolchildren. I'm all for it. changing the clocks is a throwback to a time when we didnt have modern technology. Time to come into the 21st century and not arse around with changing the clocks twice a year. | | | | | Fully in agreement with this stupidity of changing the clocks twice a year. But lets put it back to " normal time ". And if people want an extra hour in summer then they should start work earlier . Or work less. Its our archaic working system thats to blame here
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27.10.2018, 16:46
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
So if they do eventually keep the "daylight saving "as a permanent thing then what will happen with things like astrology and all such calculations?
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27.10.2018, 16:58
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
Presumably they work off GMT already which would stay anyway.
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27.10.2018, 17:00
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Fully in agreement with this stupidity of changing the clocks twice a year. But lets put it back to " normal time ". | | | | | "Normal time" in Switzerland is pretty much the same as the current summer time in Switzerland.
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27.10.2018, 17:32
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | "Normal time" in Switzerland is pretty much the same as the current summer time in Switzerland. 
Tom | | | | | Minus 1 hour.
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28.10.2018, 07:09
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
Its 0700 and its light. So great. And there are those that want to sabotage this!  Fight the EU mafia
And my CNN news is no longer at 0600
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28.10.2018, 09:23
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Its 0700 and its light. So great. And there are those that want to sabotage this! Fight the EU mafia
And my CNN news is no longer at 0600 | | | | | I would prefer it to get dark one hour later. More daylight after work
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28.10.2018, 09:28
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Its 0700 and its light. | | | | | Indeed. Horrible.
Who needs light at 7AM?
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28.10.2018, 09:32
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | I would prefer it to get dark one hour later. More daylight after work | | | | | I would prefer it to be light when I wake up and not dark before 9 pm.
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28.10.2018, 09:37
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed. Horrible. 
Who needs light at 7AM? 
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28.10.2018, 09:44
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
We should move the clock 1 hour back every evening Sun to Thu
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28.10.2018, 09:49
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed. Horrible. 
Who needs light at 7AM? 
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28.10.2018, 10:13
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Us poor souls who have to get up at 5.30am.  | | | | |
Long ago, I used to get up at 3 to do a 4 hour morning shift before school.
It was nice cruising down the empty MA highway before work.
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