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28.10.2018, 14:56
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: |  | | | On the one side we have nearly 5 million people that were sufficiently interested to complete a survey and of whom 80% wanted permanent summer time.
On the other side we have the EF's current resident grouch, Omtatsat.
Slight imbalance maybe? How about you just get up 1 hour later to compensate and leave the vast majority to enjoy their evening daylight. | | | | | And most EF-ers will check EF early in the morning then. | Quote: | |  | | | "Normal time" in Switzerland is pretty much the same as the current summer time in Switzerland. 
Tom | | | | | I think you're wrong here, the original time is today's wintertime.
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28.10.2018, 16:49
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
Extra hour in bed this morning. Marvellous.
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28.10.2018, 18:24
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | And most EF-ers will check EF early in the morning then. 
I think you're wrong here, the original time is today's wintertime. | | | | | There are over 500 million people in the EU so dont talk about a miserable survey of 8 million! Means nothing. They were paid anyhow to say yes.
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28.10.2018, 19:11
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Its 0700 and its light. So great. And there are those that want to sabotage this! Fight the EU mafia | | | | | So 2 reasons to welcome permanent summer time. Almost everyone wants it AND it pisses Omtatsat off
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28.10.2018, 19:29
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | There are over 500 million people in the EU so dont talk about a miserable survey of 8 million! Means nothing. They were paid anyhow to say yes. | | | | | I am absolutely not surprised that my posting and your reference to it have no connection to each other at all.
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28.10.2018, 19:44
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | I think you're wrong here, the original time is today's wintertime. | | | | | Lugano being 9 degrees east means that we are 36 minutes ahead of GMT, so it's a toss up, half an hour wrong in either case.
Geneva being 6 degrees east means that it is only 24 minutes ahead of GMT, even worse and really should be on GMT time.
Bern is 29.8 minutes ahead of GMT, and thus should also be in the same timezone as London.
Thus, summertime is closer to solar time in Switzerland (on average).
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28.10.2018, 20:23
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Lugano being 9 degrees east means that we are 36 minutes ahead of GMT, so it's a toss up, half an hour wrong in either case.
Geneva being 6 degrees east means that it is only 24 minutes ahead of GMT, even worse and really should be on GMT time. 
Bern is 29.8 minutes ahead of GMT, and thus should also be in the same timezone as London. 
Thus, summertime is closer to solar time in Switzerland (on average). 
Tom | | | | | I know why you did not mention Zurich. As Zurich is boss. | This user would like to thank curley for this useful post: | | 
29.10.2018, 07:49
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Lugano being 9 degrees east means that we are 36 minutes ahead of GMT, so it's a toss up, half an hour wrong in either case.
Geneva being 6 degrees east means that it is only 24 minutes ahead of GMT, even worse and really should be on GMT time. 
Bern is 29.8 minutes ahead of GMT, and thus should also be in the same timezone as London. 
Thus, summertime is closer to solar time in Switzerland (on average). 
Tom | | | | | You've got your times mixed up there. Astronomically London, by definition (overhead sun at noon), should be on GMT. Therefore on your argument Switzerland should be on either GMT or GMT plus 1 so either on UK winter time or CH winter time. CH summer time is always at least 1 hour ahead.
OTOH the world doesn't live according to astronomical time any more. Apart from omtatsat.
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29.10.2018, 08:37
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: |  | | | ...the world doesn't live according to astronomical time any more... | | | | | Almost true.
It has to be fair trade, organically sourced, suitable for vegans, gluten and lactose free astronomical time
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02.11.2018, 21:59
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
Except Imatwat!
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04.11.2018, 07:07
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | 
Except Imatwat! 
Tom | | | | | I love turning the clocks back so that's it's light when I get up in the morning. There are those people who choose darkness over light. And its not dark in Switzerland at 4pm. More fake news! The sun sets at 5pm!
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12.11.2018, 07:18
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving
Wow. So great that its light at 06.45 now. And there are some people who hate the morning light!
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12.11.2018, 07:21
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Wow. So great that its light at 06.45 now. And there are some people who hate the morning light! | | | | | Whe the hell is even awake at 6:45?
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12.11.2018, 07:22
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Whe the hell is even awake at 6:45? 
Tom | | | | | The birds
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12.11.2018, 07:49
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Wow. So great that its light at 06.45 now. And there are some people who hate the morning light! | | | | | Weirdest light this morning. Thin layer of fog is giving everywhere an odd yellow hue.
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12.11.2018, 08:04
| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | I love turning the clocks back so that's it's light when I get up in the morning. There are those people who choose darkness over light. And its not dark in Switzerland at 4pm. More fake news! The sun sets at 5pm! | | | | | The sun sets as early as 13:30 round here in winter. | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
12.11.2018, 08:05
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Whe the hell is even awake at 6:45? 
Tom | | | | | Me! I'll have been up for an hour and twenty minutes by then. | This user would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post: | | 
12.11.2018, 08:12
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Me! I'll have been up for an hour and twenty minutes by then.  | | | | | Some people sleep till late-recovering from hangover
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12.11.2018, 08:16
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: | |  | | | Me! I'll have been up for an hour and twenty minutes by then.  | | | | | Why?
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12.11.2018, 08:24
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| | Re: Bye bye daylight saving | Quote: |  | | | The sun sets as early as 13:30 round here in winter.  | | | | | Yes. If you live behind the Matterhorn!
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