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Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Several major news channels reported a new scandal in the AFD, the right-winged movement in Germany:
- an unnamed Swiss pharmaceutical company has donated over 130k EUR (given the exchange rate would I make an educated guess it happens to be 150k CHF at the time...) to the local unit of the party just across the border at lake Constance. This happens to be the county where their leader, Alice Weidel, is officially registered (she quite famously lived in Switzerland before taking on the role of party leader) and ran for parliament. The donations were labelled "election campaign Alice Weidel".


Several issues:
- Germany, like most countries, does not allow foreign direct support of political movements.
- the donation was cut in amounts lower than 10k at a time to blur the total amount and source of the support. Any donation over 50k EUR has to be reported to the federal parliament.
- the party neither reported the donations or took the necessary steps despite the very obvious legal situation
- months later they refunded the money (but apparently not all of it)


The AfD leadership claims to have no idea why the Swiss company wants to support the personal election campaign of Alice Weidel so generously.

Standard practice is that political parties reject illegal donations directly and inform the head of the parliament about the attempt.


https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...iz-1.4206322-2
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Old 12.11.2018, 13:09
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- the donation was cut in amounts lower than 10k at a time to blur the total amount and source of the support. Any donation over 50k EUR has to be reported to the federal parliament.
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They must have used Mafia's accountants...;-)
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:22
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They must have used Mafia's accountants...;-)


It just fits right into the picture of that particular politician: One the one hand is her political agenda focused on immigration and that topic alone. Nobody in the German parliament spreads more hate against Muslims and other minorities which are "foreign to our culture" than her. Imagine some sort of female Geert Wilders... On the other hand is she a lesbian living in a relationship with a Swiss woman of Tamil heritage. its so bizarre, I really would not know what to say to her if I ever had the chance.
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:25
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Will anybody investigate, which Zurich company donated?

I googled a bit - nobody seems to care?
To us that is the important thing, I'd say. Everybody knows who AfD is and what they stand for.
I just want to know who in Switzerland substantially supports them and what they expect to gain from it

The other thing I'd like to know is whether Swiss law allows that (financially supporting political parties of foreign countries) - don't have time for research just now. Maybe I get lucky and the media presents me the answer to this before I do have time.
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:35
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

The whole idea that companies (and Trade Unions or any organisation) can donate to political parties is ridiculous and so obviously open to abuse. They should only receive personal donations, capped at fairly low number.

BTW... where does it say it's a Pharma company ?
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:41
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I just want to know who in Switzerland substantially supports them and what they expect to gain from it.
I have the strong feeling it is a little more specific:
- the donations could have been to the AfD in general. They were not. They were specifically for the election campaign of Alice Weidel.
- While Alice Weidel avoids to publish a CV (which is very very unusual for a politician) is it known that she has been working for Goldman Sachs and other consultancies in Switzerland for most of her career.
- while she legally moved back to Germany (in order to be a candidate for the federal parliament), does she raise two kids with her partner in Biel... so her Swiss connections are not some things for a distant past.


So the question is: Does the money really come from some Swiss company or does the one person in that extremists party who knows how Switzerland works abuse the Swiss laws and hides the actual sources? I simply don't see how some pharma has any interest in an extreme party without the political power to really change laws. They typically spend their lobby money on ministers instead...
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BTW... where does it say it's a Pharma company ?
https://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/st...-Euro-19681227
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Such naivety.... everyone knows (especially Novartis) when trying to buy influence, hire people close to top honchos on imaginary assignments. If found out, apologise and carry on.
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

According to the Tagesanzeiger, AfD/Weidel paid back €124k out of more than €130k received.
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The thread title changed .....
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Old 12.11.2018, 15:28
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The thread title changed .....
Probably one of the Basel mods wanting to make sure its none of their pharmas...
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Idiots.
The accepted way: create a foundation and grant it some founds.
Then hire the influencers, give them grants to do research etc.

Example: Konrad Adenauer in Germany, paid in 99% by public money, and giving grant money to pay for research among some other neighbor countries.

Everything is lawful there, no idiot will ask about influence in other countrys' politics, and there is neither transparency nor a limit on the money spent.

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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Tom Ticino, I try hard to understand the logic of your groans.....

Am I not allowed to make a Mafia joke now? Are you denying there's something fishy in the whole affair? Oh you're defending the nice lil' lady's honour.... kiss Miss Weidel when you meet her.
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Are you denying there's something fishy in the whole affair? Oh you're defending the nice lil' lady's honour.... kiss Miss Weidel when you meet her.
Everything Weidel appears full of contradictions (in some way she keeps reminding me of Milo Yannopoulos the phony clown). I really don't get how anyone who identifies as LGBTQ can be on the far right. If it had been (and perhaps, even today if it were) up to them, LGBTQ would still be marginalised and their condition "treated".
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Everything Weidel appears full of contradictions (in some way she keeps reminding me of Milo Yannopoulos the phony clown). I really don't get how anyone who identifies as LGBTQ can be on the far right. If it had been (and perhaps, even today if it were) up to them, LGBTQ would still be marginalised and their condition "treated".


That's just part of it. She is spreading hate against ''brown people'' for a living and then decides to live in a relationship with a Tamil lady... its all in all just too much - if this was a book would I say the writer tried too hard to create contradiction... and this case is just as idiotic. How could anybody accept the donations and not immediately think "if this gets public are we screwed, I should tell Alice to do her money laundering a little more carefully..."
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Old 13.11.2018, 12:47
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Will anybody investigate, which Zurich company donated?
PWS Pharmawholesale International AG
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PWS Pharmawholesale International AG
Vorderberg 5
8044 Zürich
Mr. Balz Jegge (the only member of the Board of Directors of the company):
«Das Geld wurde meines Erachtens im Auftrag eines Geschäftsfreundes von einer europäischen Bank an unsere Firma überwiesen mit der Massgabe um dementsprechende Weiterleitung.»
In my assessment the money was transferred to our company account from an European bank by order of a business friend with the demand to pass it on.
Source in German

This is even weirder, eih? AfD would be allowed to accept donations coming from EU countries. Yet not from non-EU countries (unless the donater is an EU citizen).
So why send the money from the EU to Switzerland, then pass it on to Germany?

Next headline will probably be: It was actually a anti-AfD-campagne-scheme.
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

Simple: to launder the money. Either the money has a questionable source, tax evasion is pretty rampant with small businesses in Germany, or the donor does not want his name to be connected to the AfD. Or both. In either way was it outright idiotic to use a Swiss company for that. If you want dodgy but within the EU do we have plenty on offer from Monaco to Luxembourg.
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Simple: to launder the money. Either the money has a questionable source, tax evasion is pretty rampant with small businesses in Germany, or the donor does not want his name to be connected to the AfD. Or both. In either way was it outright idiotic to use a Swiss company for that. If you want dodgy but within the EU do we have plenty on offer from Monaco to Luxembourg.
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Re: Zurich company illegally supports the European Right

I don't get the outrage here, the total amount is peanuts. It seems to be a growing trend at the moment, instead of arguing the points with these emerging populist parties, the establishment is going after them for accounting errors. Given that the AfD is a new party, it's not hard to see how these errors could occur.

Even if this was intended how far is 130k€ really going to go? Billions are spent by car lobbyist which result in terrible decisions being made like the support for diesel motors. Yet everyone is fine with that?

The risk of foreign interference is something that should be taken seriously, however 130k€ seems to me more like an clerical error. It's not worth the risk of getting caught, which they have been, for such a small amount of money.
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