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Guest 12.02.2019 15:31

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3040775)
Vegetables cause flautlence, meat less so.

Methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

:)

Cows are much more flatulent than any human on veggies.

Caleb 12.02.2019 16:47

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
Would you be shocked to hear that cow belching has more impact on global warming than cow farting? It's due to enteric fermentation.

Source: NASA

omtatsat 12.02.2019 17:34

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
Whether we have have a new ice age or whether we get fried to a crisp has really nothing to do with what we are doing. Its out of our hands. Its just that egotistical politicians are using this fear to line their pockets!

McTAVGE 12.02.2019 19:26

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 3040682)
I reckon it's all a plot to distract us from what's really going on.

I'm sure I read in New Scientist a few years ago that global warming could result in Europe getting colder and the alpine glaciers coming back. While North America burns.



The Ice Age has definitely started here...in my marriage anyway!:eek:

McTAVGE 12.02.2019 19:27

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Cows are much more flatulent than any human on veggies.
I'd be willing to take on the challenge!:D

slammer 12.02.2019 20:26

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by McTAVGE (Post 3040869)
The Ice Age has definitely started here...in my marriage anyway!:eek:

Whatīs that? you go into a bar and order something tall and icy and full of gin and you get the wife?:msncool:

Guest 14.02.2019 22:55

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
Has anyone thought that regardless of whether the EU and US adopt more environmentally better standards, you still have China and India with which to contend - who are decidedly NOT eco friendly? Not to mention, Indonesia , Malaysia - and the list goes on. From a population standpoint, China and India are the most egregious offenders. And my view is, they could care less...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#ed12df9628c2

Urs Max 15.02.2019 08:37

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by terrifisch (Post 3041814)
Has anyone thought that regardless of whether the EU and US adopt more environmentally better standards, you still have China and India with which to contend - who are decidedly NOT eco friendly? Not to mention, Indonesia , Malaysia - and the list goes on. From a population standpoint, China and India are the most egregious offenders. And my view is, they could care less...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#ed12df9628c2

You could say the same about US vs Europe, Europe is twice as fuel/CO2 efficient when measured by GDP output.

Alas fingerpointing and placing blame won't get us anywhere.

Guest 15.02.2019 08:46

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Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3041872)
You could say the same about US vs Europe, Europe is twice as fuel/CO2 efficient when measured by GDP output.

Alas fingerpointing and placing blame won't get us anywhere.

Did you take the time to actually read the article? You should as it is informative...

slammer 15.02.2019 09:28

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by terrifisch (Post 3041814)
Has anyone thought that regardless of whether the EU and US adopt more environmentally better standards, you still have China and India with which to contend - who are decidedly NOT eco friendly? Not to mention, Indonesia , Malaysia - and the list goes on. From a population standpoint, China and India are the most egregious offenders. And my view is, they could care less...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#ed12df9628c2


Not sure about China, they have in the last decade or two lifted 800 million people out of poverty. At the same time they are investing heavily in infrastructure and education and are moving away from the reliance of fossil fuels to power their economy. Also China is developing green technology at a pace that "The West" can only dream about. They are not there quite yet but as our leaders are content to make lip-service to calm the plebs about going green the Chinese are doing it without hindrance by "special groups" and they are going to lead the world.

nathansc 07.05.2019 13:38

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
Switzerland is so small, it's strange that it would be located just to this area...

Guest 07.05.2019 13:50

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by nathansc (Post 3066454)
Switzerland is so small, it's strange that it would be located just to this area...

No-one said climate change is just restricted to here :confused:. Only talking about the effects of it here - which are very visible if you bother to look.

amogles 07.05.2019 13:50

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by nathansc (Post 3066454)
Switzerland is so small, it's strange that it would be located just to this area...

It is very difficult to quantify the causes and effects of climate change in Switzerland as these are different in every canton.

Guest 07.05.2019 14:23

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
This May is looking like it’ll be the coldest on record in Switzerland.

Just sayin.

Guest 07.05.2019 14:46

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by Loz1983 (Post 3066476)
This May is looking like itíll be the coldest on record in Switzerland.

Just sayin.

Isn't that climate "change"?

BasP72 07.05.2019 15:09

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Isn't that climate "change"?
It is because of you Sandgrounder and your model 3 that I was freezing my n#ts of on the bicycle this morning ! :msnmad:



oops apologies confused you with AbFab

Guest 07.05.2019 15:12

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by Loz1983 (Post 3066476)
This May is looking like itíll be the coldest on record in Switzerland.

Just sayin.

IF it actually happens like that (and it's far too soon to say), so what. It's called weather, not climate. How about the almost unbroken run of above average and numerous high temperature record months in recent years?

Here's the CH climate picture.

http://data2.jungegruene.ch/userfile...ng_temp_CH.png

https://www.meteoschweiz.admin.ch/ho...twicklung.html (image sourced elsewhere coz of embedding problems)

Guest 07.05.2019 15:12

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3066484)
It is because of you Sandgrounder and your model 3 that I was freezing my n#ts of on the bicycle this morning ! :msnmad:



oops apologies confused you with AbFab

:rofl:

Well, tomorrow morning add another woolly pully and your thermal undies. ;)

BasP72 07.05.2019 15:20

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
What I find interesting though, lets make a simple (electrical) model of this whole climate stuff. Energy coming in from the sun can be modelled by a current source, feeding a large capacitor (modeling earths heat capacity) and a parallel resistor (modeling the energy loss into space). The occurring voltage is the temperature. The current has a sine wave shape, with a once a year cycle.

What greenhouse gasses are doing is increasing the resistor. This not only changes the temperature amplitude (i.e. it gets warmer but also larger summer-winter differences) but it also changes the RC time constant. Effect of this is that the peak of summer temperatures and the valley of winter temperatures move towards later months.

And this move towards later in the year for both summer and winter fits very well with my (47 year) experience....

It would be interesting to see whether earths warming comes from an increased resistance (the greenhouse gasses) or an increased current (more energy coming in from the sun, either sunspots or slow periodic shifts in sun-earth distance etc etc)

krlock3 07.05.2019 15:28

Re: In Switzerland, climate change is highly visible
 
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Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3066487)
It would be interesting to see whether earths warming comes from an increased resistance (the greenhouse gasses) or an increased current (more energy coming in from the sun, either sunspots or slow periodic shifts in sun-earth distance etc etc)

Just check your own forum signature for part of that answer!


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