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Old 20.12.2018, 17:14
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They should say its also Kosher, I call this discrimination
It possibly is not. As the Jewish rules for kosher are even stricter re pans and pots, the type of cleaning. And - that's a fact, in Switzerland too - the Rabbi is present when the machines are prepared to produce a kosher product.

No idea if Toblerone does all this but I'm sure it would say on the packaging if they did.
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Old 20.12.2018, 18:46
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Please explain why this subject is off-limits? Are you, or Trevor, or Kedi, a forum moderator?

In what way was my post anti-Muslim?

In what way is it wrong to discuss the relevance of Halal food in today's society in a thread about a product that recently has new Halal labeling?

What other subjects are off-limits on this forum?
I didn't want to say its off limits. I just question why you get there, btw I'm still interested

And who talked about you being anti muslim?

There was a discussion about halal/kosher meat some time ago, here my post there:
https://www.englishforum.ch/2832196-post63.html
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And while we're on the subject:

Here's your own view on Halal slaughter on a thread also not about Halal food but immigration:




Anti-Muslim, unpleasant, and pretty hypocritical of you, wouldn't you agree, Elu?

That seems to put you further to the right of right-wing than Loz.
Sorry I just saw that.
I stand by those words.
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It possibly is not. As the Jewish rules for kosher are even stricter re pans and pots, the type of cleaning. And - that's a fact, in Switzerland too - the Rabbi is present when the machines are prepared to produce a kosher product.

No idea if Toblerone does all this but I'm sure it would say on the packaging if they did.
But kosher allows for alcohol, halal not. I think that there is no shellfish in chocolate, and very little mixing of meat and milk, but there is often alcohol....
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Never mind the Toblerone, apparently avocados are not vegan!
Bad news for vegans....What's their opinion on GM food? :-)
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For example, the Opel Fruit.

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What's their opinion on GM food? :-)
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I think that there is no shellfish in chocolate
You need to get out more:



https://www.cookingchanneltv.com/rec...colate-1960606

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It possibly is not. As the Jewish rules for kosher are even stricter re pans and pots, the type of cleaning. And - that's a fact, in Switzerland too - the Rabbi is present when the machines are prepared to produce a kosher product.

No idea if Toblerone does all this but I'm sure it would say on the packaging if they did.
Some Toblerone products have been Kosher for years, but without a visible certification - they are on the kosher list.
The person who supervises the food production isn't a Rabbi, but a simply a Kosher supervisor.
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Old 21.12.2018, 13:12
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Some Toblerone products have been Kosher for years, but without a visible certification - they are on the kosher list.
The person who supervises the food production isn't a Rabbi, but a simply a Kosher supervisor.
Interesting, why don't they have a visible certification? It would make more sense to me than many of the other stuff they print on packaging.

I don't know how it is generally handled. The one controlling the production I know about - and that was a special product, only produced every few months - was a Rabbi.
I can imagine for regular production of things, there are not enough Rabbis who have the time to attend this.
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Interesting, why don't they have a visible certification? It would make more sense to me than many of the other stuff they print on packaging.
This may come as a shock to you, but some people don't like Jews and Jewish things.

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I can imagine for regular production of things, there are not enough Rabbis who have the time to attend this.
Not every jew with a long long beard and a Kippah is a Rabbi. making sure things are kosher is the job of a Mashgiach
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Old 21.12.2018, 13:45
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Re: Toblerone is now Halal

Genuine question from an eat-everything atheist; (doesn't matter what religion it applies to) what happens if you consume something by mistake which your religion says you shouldn't? It's not like a food intolerance where you have an immediate and physical reaction so if you, say, ingest something containing some kind of meat or fish you're not supposed to have, or it hasn't been killed/stunned/bled out/tortured/prayed over/danced around/whatevs, so what do you have to do?
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Old 21.12.2018, 13:56
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Genuine question from an eat-everything atheist; (doesn't matter what religion it applies to) what happens if you consume something by mistake which your religion says you shouldn't? It's not like a food intolerance where you have an immediate and physical reaction so if you, say, ingest something containing some kind of meat or fish you're not supposed to have, or it hasn't been killed/stunned/bled out/tortured/prayed over/danced around/whatevs, so what do you have to do?
Jewish Law: nothing happens. If you ate something which you had every reason to believe was kosher, then the fault is not with you.
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Genuine question from an eat-everything atheist; (doesn't matter what religion it applies to) what happens if you consume something by mistake which your religion says you shouldn't? It's not like a food intolerance where you have an immediate and physical reaction so if you, say, ingest something containing some kind of meat or fish you're not supposed to have, or it hasn't been killed/stunned/bled out/tortured/prayed over/danced around/whatevs, so what do you have to do?
Well since Vatican II bumped the fish-on-Friday rule down to a petty misdemeanor, we Catholics no longer fear going to hell on a meat rap (pace, George Carlin). A quick shout-out to St Andrew Corsini, patron saint of fishmongers, will get you right with The Big Guy, should you give into Lenten burger cravings.

Or you could just get on with your life.

tl;dr: The state of my soul has nought to do with my stomach.
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Well since Vatican II bumped the fish-on-Friday rule down to a petty misdemeanor, we Catholics no longer fear going to hell on a meat rap (pace, George Carlin). A quick shout-out to St Andrew Corsini, patron saint of fishmongers, will get you right with The Big Guy, should you give into Lenten burger cravings.

Or you could just get on with your life.

tl;dr: The state of my soul has nought to do with my stomach.
Have you noticed that the cravings are stronger when you're decided to fast?
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Interesting, why don't they have a visible certification? It would make more sense to me than many of the other stuff they print on packaging.

I don't know how it is generally handled. The one controlling the production I know about - and that was a special product, only produced every few months - was a Rabbi.
I can imagine for regular production of things, there are not enough Rabbis who have the time to attend this.
I was reading on a food blog that Toblerone made in the US has a kosher designation. As far as I can tell, however, all Toblerone is made in Switzerland (near Bern). So it might be the case that Toblerone packaging destined for the US/North American market carries the Kosher designation. I don’t know for sure.

It’s a marketing decision. In the US designating a product suitable for Kosher consumption may be positive. In Europe, the same product designated Kosher might be negative, just as the reaction to Halal product labeling. The product is identical, regardless of the package.

Toblerone used to be made in Bern, right off the Laengassestrasse. When my husband worked at the University of Bern, his office was right next to the UniTobler building....the former Tobler factory.
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For example, the Opel Fruit.
Great joke.

But did you know that Starburst, formally known as Opal Fruits in the U.K, aren't halal as they contain beef and pork gelatine.
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Old 21.12.2018, 19:56
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This may come as a shock to you, but some people don't like Jews and Jewish things. ...]
ROFL. Yeah - when supporting such an attitude as you seem to, I'm sure it's so much more promotional to write halal on the product.

However, I support making products available to everybody.
Okay, making the Toblerone vegan would be taking it a step too far.
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This has got some white supremacists with their knickers in a twist!
AfD star Prof. Dr. Jörg Meuthen is calling it Islamisation of Europe. Some white supremacists are calling for a boycott.

Toblerone themselves are more relaxed; they say it is just a certification, no change to the recipe.
They also say with 2 Billion potential Muslim customers they are not too worried by threats of boycotts.

Source German

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Myself I was more worried when Toblerone reduced their "mountains".
The Jews have their Kosher and the Muslims halal. Big deal. And the Christians have their slaughter house barbarity.
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It’s a marketing decision.
This.

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Great joke.

But did you know that Starburst, formally known as Opal Fruits in the U.K, aren't halal as they contain beef and pork gelatine.
Didn't get it and had no time to look it up. What are those? Horribly tasting candies?

I actually didn't (totally) joke - the vegan "community"'s opinion is split on the genetically modified foods...as if they would get to know anyway.

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It possibly is not. As the Jewish rules for kosher are even stricter re pans and pots, the type of cleaning. And - that's a fact, in Switzerland too - the Rabbi is present when the machines are prepared to produce a kosher product.
Lol I didn't mean it seriously. You are right though. Personally I think that all eating based on religious scripture is a load of old codswallop. Eat it if you like it I say. Or unless you choose not too, personally I don't particularly like to eat some gibletty bit, especially if I can see those tubular bits, what are those?. Not that keen on gastropods either. Wouldn't eat whale or snake, endangered species are a no, no, to me. I am sure Tom would disagree.

Mind you Tom has posted on this thread, some the most abominable food stuffs I have ever seen.
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