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Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on beggary

Vaud doesn't have a very good record when it comes to human rights (it's not like Switzerland as a whole does) but this .... and confirmed by the so-called judges of the country's Supreme court, on alleged grounds of security and peace ... Wow so this is Switzerland ?
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Old 10.02.2019, 22:47
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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

So what seems to be the problem?
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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

Nothing new, the Federal Tribunal just stated that nothing had changed, and nothing new was presented and referred to its previous rejection in a similar case in 2008.

And I personally like this, go to the Netherlands where upfront of almost every supermarket in the country some eastern guy or girl is nagging you with his/her music and "oh I am so pitiful" notes only to be collected at the end of the day in a nice expensive Mercedes. Begging is a plague pestered by criminal organisations.
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Vaud doesn't have a very good record when it comes to human rights (it's not like Switzerland as a whole does) but this .... and confirmed by the so-called judges of the country's Supreme court, on alleged grounds of security and peace ... Wow so this is Switzerland ?
What article of the UN states that begging is a human right?
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Vaud doesn't have a very good record when it comes to human rights (it's not like Switzerland as a whole does) but this .... and confirmed by the so-called judges of the country's Supreme court, on alleged grounds of security and peace ... Wow so this is Switzerland ?
Are you aware that beggars are often just the front-end of big money making organizations? It's good for everyone if it is not allowed.
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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

No one needs to beg in Switzerland. Even tourists.
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Vaud doesn't have a very good record when it comes to human rights (it's not like Switzerland as a whole does)...
No? They why is Switzerland one of only 3 countries that scores top ranking on all 4 human rights measures in this Wikipedia article?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices
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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

Actually Vaud is quite tolerant of buskers. I only wish they needed to pass a talent test. There is one woman that sits in Nyon station, with her dog, who couldn’t carry a tune in a wheelbarrow.

There is another busker with a squeeze box that only knows three songs.
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Old 11.02.2019, 10:26
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Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on beggary

Begging, not beggary.

Or did you mean buggery (which WOULD be a human rights violation)?

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Old 11.02.2019, 10:32
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There is another busker with a squeeze box that only knows three songs.
You mean there's more than just the theme to 'Allo 'Allo?
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Begging, not beggary.

Or did you mean buggery (which WOULD be a human rights violation)?

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You've never heard of beggary?
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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

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No one needs to beg in Switzerland. Even tourists.
But with the loopy open-border policy, clearly they are going to be coming in all the time. Many have no connection to Switzerland, so whether anyone here needs to or not is irrelevant, especially in border regions.
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Nothing new, the Federal Tribunal just stated that nothing had changed, and nothing new was presented and referred to its previous rejection in a similar case in 2008.

And I personally like this, go to the Netherlands where upfront of almost every supermarket in the country some eastern guy or girl is nagging you with his/her music and "oh I am so pitiful" notes only to be collected at the end of the day in a nice expensive Mercedes. Begging is a plague pestered by criminal organisations.

Or the bug-ridden woman in filthy clothes holding an incredibly and unnaturally quiet baby, who is either drugged or dead. Come to think about it I hav´t seen anything like this in Munich since coming back, but in Düsseldorf they were on almost every street corner.
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Vaud doesn't have a very good record when it comes to human rights (it's not like Switzerland as a whole does) but this .... and confirmed by the so-called judges of the country's Supreme court, on alleged grounds of security and peace ... Wow so this is Switzerland ?
Can you please link to the actual federal court decision so that we can discuss this mater fully informed?

You can find it here: https://www.bger.ch/ext/eurospider/l...=fr&mode=index

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You've never heard of beggary?
Yes, but that is not what was banned, BEGGING was banned.

It's not the same thing.

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Re: Vaud decided begging is a crime, Supreme Court agrees, confirms total ban on begg

Just had a quick look:
Begging is illegal in:
Munich
Augsburg
Nürnberg
Würzburg

Essen
Berlin
Leipzig
Bamberg
And in plenty other cities, in Augsburg for instance beggers who have been caught have to give the money to the police.
Begging is also verboten in many citys and town in Austria, so why are you indignant about Vaud placing begging on the verboten list?
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Yes, but that is not what was banned, BEGGING was banned.

It's not the same thing.

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Sure it is. You know words can have several meanings? Beggary is a synonym for begging.

But you prolly know that already.
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Sure it is. You know words can have several meanings? Beggary is a synonym for begging.

But you prolly know that already.
Yes, I PROBABLY do.

I've just never heard it used for that before.

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Yes, I PROBABLY do.

I've just never heard it used for that before.

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