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13.09.2019, 15:25
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | I don't care so much about the fate Glarner Schoggi, which is anyway another temptation for our self indulgent nature (and rots your teeth), but like Läderach I also do wonder how long a society can survive when moral and ethical values are based on principles such as "if it feels good, do it". | | | | | Yeah let's base it on an ancient story book with characters with super-powers instead. (oh, that's what Herr Läderach does). | The following 3 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 15:34
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Can you please translate that motley jumble of words into a meaningful paragraph? | | | | | Don't bother, sapienti sat
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13.09.2019, 15:55
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Slowly getting sick and tired of all these activists nowadays. Whether for climate, LGBT rights or extinction, I tune out immediately... The irony is also that typically activists are very intolerant people... | | | | | The irony in what you have written, and of which you are probably blissfully unaware is that "not doing something" is more akin to inactivity which is the opposite to what an activist does.
So not buying chocolate is not really being an activist, is it?
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13.09.2019, 15:55
| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist
Aw. It won't let me upload my photo.
Never mind, I'm still going to enjoy my bag of broken bits whether Tom1234 can see them or not.
Nom nom! | The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 16:01
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: |  | | | Aw. It won't let me upload my photo.
Never mind, I'm still going to enjoy my bag of broken bits whether Tom1234 can see them or not.
Nom nom!  | | | | | I thought only little children had a need for Zveri ?
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13.09.2019, 16:04
| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | I thought only little children had a need for Zveri ? | | | | | Dunno. It's zveri nice anyway. | The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 16:21
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | The irony is also that typically activists are very intolerant people... | | | | | Probably the irony comes from the fact that activism and tolerance sound mutually exclusive | The following 2 users would like to thank arz for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 16:27
| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Probably the irony comes from the fact that activism and tolerance sound mutually exclusive  | | | | | I personally tolerate Laderach chocolate, but actively pursue Cadbury.
Folks with more money than the gods always are a lot on the weird side. They've had generations of breeding out common sense and the ability to relate to, well, folk without oodles of cash. Doesn't make it right. Also doesn't mean they're going to change their beliefs or stop making the chocs.
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13.09.2019, 16:29
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | the family who runs it are religious fundamantalists who actively campaign against homosexuality and the right to have an abortion... even for rape victims! The chief is ürg Läderach, owner and chairman of the board of Läderach AG, and he is campaigning against the "moral decline" of society today in stark contrast to progressive and tolerant values.
The son Johannes Läderach apparently even supported a far-right SVP campaigner, Daniel Regli, when he said in 2017 that: | | | | | When chocolate goes to your head....
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13.09.2019, 16:47
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Calling someone an idiot for making a purposefully inflammatory post that trivializes far-right prejudice and criticizing the heads of a company for being anti-gay and anti-abortion, are not the same thing. Even a god-awful moderator with low levels of common sense like you must understand that, 22y.  | | | | | Well done for breaking forum rules.
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13.09.2019, 16:50
| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Forum Legends make their own rules. It is the Natural Order of Things.
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13.09.2019, 17:00
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Ahh, Medea, always providing unintentional comedy value.  It's a standard moderating message, there is nothing genuinely private about it and it contains the exact same editing reason that was publicly viewable at the bottom of my post before I edited it. | The following 3 users would like to thank Chuff for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 17:11
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Slowly getting sick and tired of all these activists nowadays. Whether for climate, LGBT rights or extinction, I tune out immediately... The irony is also that typically activists are very intolerant people... | | | | | Blue Mink‘s „Melting Pot“ hit from 50 years ago banned as offensive... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...rics-82kpk7jht | The following 4 users would like to thank AbFab for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 18:18
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist
Irrespective of the fact that the Läderachs are Christian fundamentalists with extreme beliefs, I don't buy Läderach chocolate as it's made with palm oil - which is hardly necessary for a so-called luxury item.
What are they playing at?
Perhaps they ought to use more of that Swiss diary milk instead and keep Swiss farmers in business?
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13.09.2019, 18:20
| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist
Rapeseed and sunflower oil in these chocolates.
Want me to save you some? You better be quick, cos we're halfway through the pack already...
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13.09.2019, 19:27
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | Quite backward ideas but where do you draw the line for such moral dilemmas?
Anyone on the forum who decided not buy Apple products because of Foxconn labor conditions or not to buy a Volkswagen product because of the environmental scam? | | | | |
when it comes to chocolate there's no dilemma at all, while Belgian chocolate is just lightyears ahead of Swiss milk pastilles. as well as bear. | This user would like to thank Sultan of Swing for this useful post: | | 
13.09.2019, 19:55
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist
So you people are fighting (people advocating) discrimination by discriminating. That seems rather self-contradictory.
Is there such a thing as just discrimination?
And if so, what's the definiton, what does it look like? When is discrimination justified?
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13.09.2019, 20:01
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | So you people are fighting (people advocating) discrimination by discriminating. That seems rather self-contradictory.
Is there such a thing as just discrimination?
And if so, what's the definiton, what does it look like? When is discrimination justified? | | | | | Indeed. When confronted with such things as intolerance, one should show zero tolerance.
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13.09.2019, 20:05
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist
As I'm supporting children right to live and am frightened by the hostility of LGBTQ+ advocates towards old school "traditional" way of life (non promiscuous monogamous non-x-times-divorced heterosexual family) I'll gladly indulge for the first time in these overpriced chocolates; it's a pity our local coop doesn't sell any...
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13.09.2019, 20:06
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| | Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist | Quote: | |  | | | So you people are fighting (people advocating) discrimination by discriminating. That seems rather self-contradictory.
Is there such a thing as just discrimination?
And if so, what's the definiton, what does it look like? When is discrimination justified? | | | | | I see it like this:
A company is offering a service/product.
Some consumers do no like some aspect of that service/product.
They chose not to buy that product and buy another from another company instead. It's their choice, and their choice alone.
The company can decide to adapt, change its ways or lose customers. It's their choice.
This happens all the time, every minute of every day with consumers of products.
It's what happens in a free market.
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