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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

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You post sounds like a bitter person making some pretty large exaggerations. I think most people are realistic about Switzerlands pro's and con's (of course it isn't perfect, but what is?), but when you add it all up and average it all out Switzerland is still one of the most amazing placed to live in this increasingly volatile world.

Compared to the increasingly second-world UK it is a veritable paradise.
Their(his/her) post sounded like someone's who was observing the Swiss culture through observing the English Forum...don't know if it's scary or funny, but probably accurate in their view.
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Thanks for reminding me -

Backlash #6 - "If you don't like it here, clear off to somewhere" This only confirms what's written below. You have to like it here! Let's shut the criticism and sing glorious songs about the Swiss beauty and it's chocolate.

And, I don't wish to compare Switzerland with UK or any other 2nd-class place. Most expats have taken the pains, educated themselves, fought corporate red tape to migrate here, and it's fair that they expect a reasonable feeling that it's been an upgrade. Else they'd gladly go to UK, US, Singapore etc. Upgrade doesn't entirely have to be salary, pensions etc. It's also about progressive social mindset.


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This entire forum, and perhaps the whole country, is dominated by ignorant, right-wing people who cannot accept anything other than a less glorious viewpoint of Switzerland. For most, Switzerland is supposed to be the perfect dream land where there is no crime (the very core of banking system is based on encouraging criminal behavior and stashing ill gotten wealth here safely), no corruption, no racism, no homophobia (they don't even have gay marriage), no sexism (this country has some of the extremely archaic, anti-female policies and corporate culture). Instead, we are supposed to believe there's perfect equality and the "system" here just works at 100% efficiency and perfection. I have been noticing this forum's and the country's "culture" for quite a while now, and any criticism is met with a quick backlash with any/all of below counter (silly) arguments:

1. Plain denial. No, it cannot be that way. The perpetrator didn't mean it / You misunderstood it, etc.

2. It is worse elsewhere, therefore things aren't so bad here. Citing examples of developing countries, ISIS etc. Or, it's happening at other places, e.g. VW, Apple etc.

3. Criticizing the approach of any counter-action, questioning it's effectiveness - as if doing nothing is the most ideal reaction.

4. Plain trivialization and digression to a different topic.

5. Calling anyone a "thought police" who writes about any negative event.
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Thanks for reminding me -

Backlash #6 - "If you don't like it here, clear off to somewhere" This only confirms what's written below. You have to like it here! Let's shut the criticism and sing glorious songs about the Swiss beauty and it's chocolate.
Shutting the criticism with chocolate that one has no obligation to buy?

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And, I don't wish to compare Switzerland with UK or any other 2nd-class place. Most expats have taken the pains, educated themselves, fought corporate red tape to migrate here, and it's fair that they expect a reasonable feeling that it's been an upgrade. Else they'd gladly go to UK, US, Singapore etc. Upgrade doesn't entirely have to be salary, pensions etc. It's also about progressive social mindset.
There is no entitlement to upgrade, though. If there is, expacts might actually not be the most entitled to it, it seems from the local reactions. If you listen to some real hardships people went through sometimes to make it here (including locals, of course). Maybe a different perspective, but it definitely exists.
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There is no entitlement to upgrade, though. If there is, expats might actually not be the most entitled to it, it seems from the local reactions. If you listen to some real hardships people went through sometimes to make it here (including locals, of course). Maybe a different perspective, but it definitely exists.
You're not kidding! I had to bloody MARRY one of them!
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Yeah.. stuffing your mouth with some black powder mixed with sugar (aka chocolate), or rotten milk solids (cheese), or having to kiss someone who does that on hourly basis.. is indeed an excruciating hardship. As long as the mouth is occupied and isn't spewing out any criticism (no matter how valid), the society is OK with it.
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

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You're not kidding! I had to bloody MARRY one of them!
Did he make you by the force of the best chocolate in the world?
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Yeah.. stuffing your mouth with some black powder mixed with sugar (aka chocolate), or rotten milk solids (cheese), or having to kiss someone who does that on hourly basis.. is indeed an excruciating hardship. As long as the mouth is occupied and isn't spewing out any criticism (no matter how valid), the society is OK with it.
It is just to make you wait a little longer before you offer your opinion.

It is a strategy here...people think more maybe? Curb their anger?

Some don't speak at all.

Pingus unite!
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Yeah.. stuffing your mouth with some black powder mixed with sugar (aka chocolate), or rotten milk solids (cheese), or having to kiss someone who does that on hourly basis.. is indeed an excruciating hardship. As long as the mouth is occupied and isn't spewing out any criticism (no matter how valid), the society is OK with it.
Tbh it was really hard to get used with kissing people 3 times, and sometimes even those who (I thought) were not really that close to me.
But, although I know you don't like this type of argument - in France...it could be worse.
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. . .

Backlash #6 - "If you don't like it here, clear off to somewhere" This only confirms what's written below. . . .
That was very self fulfilling. You have complained about the way that people complain about your complaints
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

#7 - mute people clicking on "groan" button without adding anything of value to the discussion. I can picture a grumpy old man sipping herbal tea, sitting by a window, who thinks his "vote" is truly making a difference to the world.
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#7 - mute people clicking on "groan" button without adding anything of value to the discussion. I can picture a grumpy old man sipping Merlot, sitting by a window, who thinks his "vote" is truly making a difference to the world.
Fixed that for you.
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Some don't speak at all.

Pingus unite!
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Why isn't anyone posting? Been over an hour..and no new backlash yet? I thought the downward integrated expats would by now be efficient in finishing up their Merlot flavored water in under an hour. Roll up the sleeves, type some text and change the world, bros..
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Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

They are either thinking about lunch or working, like me.

Mind you, after lunch it is not easy either to think about the revolution, either..especially against good chocolate.

Start a good thread, organize an event and we'll chip in. Bro.
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Why isn't anyone posting?
Because I prefer dealing with my Merlot cup with one hand and holding Läderach in the other rather than your posts.
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Why isn't anyone posting? Been over an hour..and no new backlash yet? I thought the downward integrated expats would by now be efficient in finishing up their Merlot flavored water in under an hour. Roll up the sleeves, type some text and change the world, bros..
Perhaps because the thread is about Läderach and we are all bored off your off-topic complaint?
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Thanks for reminding me -

Backlash #6 - "If you don't like it here, clear off to somewhere" This only confirms what's written below. You have to like it here! Let's shut the criticism and sing glorious songs about the Swiss beauty and it's chocolate.

And, I don't wish to compare Switzerland with UK or any other 2nd-class place. Most expats have taken the pains, educated themselves, fought corporate red tape to migrate here, and it's fair that they expect a reasonable feeling that it's been an upgrade. Else they'd gladly go to UK, US, Singapore etc. Upgrade doesn't entirely have to be salary, pensions etc. It's also about progressive social mindset.
It's about making a decision based on all the factors available, then accepting the compromises you've made in that process. If the overall change is not an "upgrade" then you've simply made a poor choice. Blaming others for your lack of decision-making skills is not likely to make many friends in any environment, is it?
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Why sn't anyone posting? Been over an hour..and no new backlash yet? I thought the downward integrated expats would by now be efficient in finishing up their Merlot flavored water in under an hour. Roll up the sleeves, type some text and change the world, bros..
Hmm, this smells like a duplicate account or return of an ex-member.
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Hmm, this smells like a duplicate account or return of an ex-member.
Richdog?

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The penguin? How odd.
Didn't get it. Is it a fancy term for something else?
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