Sorry, that's wrong. Not doing one particular thing does not mean one is doing nothing. Activism can be an act of omission, and 'actively' refusing to do something is not the same as simply not doing it. If I decide not to eat at McDonalds out of principle (being careful to announce my saintliness on social media beforehand), this is not the same as not eating there for some other reason -- maybe I never eat fast food, or maybe I'm too poor to eat out.

If you support the rights of children outside the uterus then ok, but otherwise you’re just another hypocrite. Moreover, sexual orientation is not necessarily causative of promiscuity. You’re working off some tired old prejudices there. The gay and lesbian couples I know seem just as monogamous and faithful as straight couples, i.e. a wide range.

People who own companies can suck. The problem is that sometimes the people working for those companies need the jobs. What I want to know is whether or not the company requires employees to hold the same regressive views. Then i’ll Surely boycott.

Oh yeah, and I think the research suggests pretty much that sexual orientation is not a choice.

But could it be fluid, like gender?

I have NOT said or implied that.
I only said that the advocates of the movement are hostile to the old school people.

Sure

Did you read the T-A article yourself? They have already put it in the public light and continue to do so with campaigns including protest marches.

Not sure what country you are from but what's "old school" in your book?

You are clearly an old hypocrite if you support the rights of children outside uterus. How is this idea backwards and non-modern is explained the Journal of Medical Ethics https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261

No. It's the first time I heard about it.
Maybe I read about it back then. And quickly forgot.



I'm not interested in those debates. There's usually nothing to be won.
People have their opinions and usually stick to them.

Seriously? How did we get from "don't buy chocolate at Läderach" to "let's kill newborns"? WTAF.

Because, you know, this:

So much truth....and on pretty much everything. But dialogues can be still interesting. (there's nothing to be won from many debates, but we still keep going the dialogue because the alternative is quite somber)

I think it is a very typical gesture: "I will support progress by avoiding eating overpriced chocolate".

Yeah.

How exactly has the world become a better place by this. Especially if those who "avoid buying expensive chocolate" wouldn't buy it anyway.

I am making the world to be a better place by not buying an expensive car. That I wouldn't buy ever, anyways.

Problem solved: Marmite chocolate, 2.99 GBP


https://www.treasureislandsweets.co....olate-bar.html

You're right. The important thing is not the decision not to do the thing you'd never do in any case, it's the self-aggrandising announcements to all and sundry that you've decided to martyr yourself. You then sit back and wait for all the congratulations. It achieves nothing whatever in the real world but creates that nice warm glow of holiness to keep you smiling to yourself for a while.

Someone is a bit too judgemental...if anything, Laderach gained new clients as a result of this thread.

Lost some (who weren't really clients to begin with, but neither the anti-anti-Laderach people), gained some. All in all, a very typical debate for EF, usually ending with the typical accusations of self-aggrandising, blah blah blah.

Vive la comédie!

You calling me old, cupcake? Good call. Nevertheless, I was writing about the propensity of certain anti choicers to support no abortion, but then fail to support programs to sustain children and their families especially if they are poor.

"You" in general, not you, edot. At least this is how I read it, but I'm proficient in non-native English.

Yacek, care to confirm?

If it helps, I was a regular consumer of the bag of mixed slabs they do - not cheap, but a nice treat every now and again (or a bit more often than that, but I don't like to admit it!).

As I'm planning to begin a diet, it is a convenient time to become aware of Mr L's antediluvian views. I think DB might be taking up the slack I've created though

It's easy to forget when to stop with Laderach chocolate, have to give them that.

For those who like to exercise some control over their sugar/chocolate cravings....dark, very dark chocolate. It's more than nothing....actually, depending on the brand it can be quite nice!

Good luck with the diet!

How‘s your sarcasm?