Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Swiss politics/news  
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:00
Pachyderm's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 1,475
Groaned at 73 Times in 52 Posts
Thanked 3,216 Times in 1,102 Posts
Pachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
The irony in what you have written, and of which you are probably blissfully unaware is that "not doing something" is more akin to inactivity which is the opposite to what an activist does.
Sorry, that's wrong. Not doing one particular thing does not mean one is doing nothing. Activism can be an act of omission, and 'actively' refusing to do something is not the same as simply not doing it. If I decide not to eat at McDonalds out of principle (being careful to announce my saintliness on social media beforehand), this is not the same as not eating there for some other reason -- maybe I never eat fast food, or maybe I'm too poor to eat out.

Last edited by Pachyderm; 14.09.2019 at 17:28.
The following 2 users would like to thank Pachyderm for this useful post:
  #82  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:01
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
As I'm supporting children right to live and am frightened by the hostility of LGBTQ+ advocates towards old school "traditional" way of life (non promiscuous monogamous non-x-times-divorced heterosexual family) I'll gladly indulge for the first time in these overpriced chocolates; it's a pity our local coop doesn't sell any...
If you support the rights of children outside the uterus then ok, but otherwise you’re just another hypocrite. Moreover, sexual orientation is not necessarily causative of promiscuity. You’re working off some tired old prejudices there. The gay and lesbian couples I know seem just as monogamous and faithful as straight couples, i.e. a wide range.

People who own companies can suck. The problem is that sometimes the people working for those companies need the jobs. What I want to know is whether or not the company requires employees to hold the same regressive views. Then i’ll Surely boycott.

Oh yeah, and I think the research suggests pretty much that sexual orientation is not a choice.
The following 10 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #83  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:23
NotAllThere's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 13,251
Groaned at 216 Times in 191 Posts
Thanked 19,326 Times in 7,865 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
Oh yeah, and I think the research suggests pretty much that sexual orientation is not a choice.
But could it be fluid, like gender?
The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #84  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:26
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,456
Groaned at 114 Times in 74 Posts
Thanked 1,580 Times in 896 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
If you support the rights of children outside the uterus then ok, but otherwise you’re just another hypocrite. Moreover, sexual orientation is not necessarily causative of promiscuity. You’re working off some tired old prejudices there. The gay and lesbian couples I know seem just as monogamous and faithful as straight couples, i.e. a wide range.
I have NOT said or implied that.
I only said that the advocates of the movement are hostile to the old school people.
This user would like to thank yacek for this useful post:
  #85  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:35
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
But could it be fluid, like gender?
Sure
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #86  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:54
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 15,770
Groaned at 522 Times in 414 Posts
Thanked 23,268 Times in 9,400 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
It's fringe opinion.
By drawing it into the public light, you give it more visibility and credibility than it probably deserves.
Did you read the T-A article yourself? They have already put it in the public light and continue to do so with campaigns including protest marches.
  #87  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:55
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 15,770
Groaned at 522 Times in 414 Posts
Thanked 23,268 Times in 9,400 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
I have NOT said or implied that.
I only said that the advocates of the movement are hostile to the old school people.
Not sure what country you are from but what's "old school" in your book?
This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #88  
Old 14.09.2019, 16:55
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,456
Groaned at 114 Times in 74 Posts
Thanked 1,580 Times in 896 Posts
yacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond reputeyacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
If you support the rights of children outside the uterus then ok, but otherwise you’re just another hypocrite..
You are clearly an old hypocrite if you support the rights of children outside uterus. How is this idea backwards and non-modern is explained the Journal of Medical Ethics https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261
Quote:
After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?
Alberto Giubilini, Francesca Minerva
Author affiliations
Abstract
Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus' health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.
  #89  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:01
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,627
Groaned at 70 Times in 49 Posts
Thanked 3,798 Times in 2,056 Posts
rainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
Did you read the T-A article yourself? They have already put it in the public light and continue to do so with campaigns including protest marches.

No. It's the first time I heard about it.
Maybe I read about it back then. And quickly forgot.



I'm not interested in those debates. There's usually nothing to be won.
People have their opinions and usually stick to them.
  #90  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:14
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 11,145
Groaned at 87 Times in 83 Posts
Thanked 18,852 Times in 8,394 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
You are clearly an old hypocrite if you support the rights of children outside uterus. How is this idea backwards and non-modern is explained the Journal of Medical Ethics https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261
Seriously? How did we get from "don't buy chocolate at Läderach" to "let's kill newborns"? WTAF.
The following 3 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #91  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:24
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,732
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,639 Times in 8,014 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
Seriously? How did we get from "don't buy chocolate at Läderach" to "let's kill newborns"? WTAF.

Because, you know, this:

Quote:
View Post
I'm not interested in those debates. There's usually nothing to be won.
People have their opinions and usually stick to them.
So much truth....and on pretty much everything. But dialogues can be still interesting. (there's nothing to be won from many debates, but we still keep going the dialogue because the alternative is quite somber)
  #92  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:25
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,292
Groaned at 394 Times in 270 Posts
Thanked 19,993 Times in 10,412 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

I think it is a very typical gesture: "I will support progress by avoiding eating overpriced chocolate".

Yeah.

How exactly has the world become a better place by this. Especially if those who "avoid buying expensive chocolate" wouldn't buy it anyway.

I am making the world to be a better place by not buying an expensive car. That I wouldn't buy ever, anyways.
The following 2 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #93  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:32
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Geneva
Posts: 4,019
Groaned at 37 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 5,612 Times in 2,012 Posts
McTAVGE has a reputation beyond reputeMcTAVGE has a reputation beyond reputeMcTAVGE has a reputation beyond reputeMcTAVGE has a reputation beyond reputeMcTAVGE has a reputation beyond reputeMcTAVGE has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Problem solved: Marmite chocolate, 2.99 GBP


https://www.treasureislandsweets.co....olate-bar.html
The following 3 users would like to thank McTAVGE for this useful post:
  #94  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:38
Pachyderm's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 1,475
Groaned at 73 Times in 52 Posts
Thanked 3,216 Times in 1,102 Posts
Pachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond reputePachyderm has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
I think it is a very typical gesture: "I will support progress by avoiding eating overpriced chocolate".
You're right. The important thing is not the decision not to do the thing you'd never do in any case, it's the self-aggrandising announcements to all and sundry that you've decided to martyr yourself. You then sit back and wait for all the congratulations. It achieves nothing whatever in the real world but creates that nice warm glow of holiness to keep you smiling to yourself for a while.
The following 2 users would like to thank Pachyderm for this useful post:
  #95  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:54
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,732
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,639 Times in 8,014 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
You're right. The important thing is not the decision not to do the thing you'd never do in any case, it's the self-aggrandising announcements to all and sundry that you've decided to martyr yourself. You then sit back and wait for all the congratulations. It achieves nothing whatever in the real world but creates that nice warm glow of holiness to keep you smiling to yourself for a while.
Someone is a bit too judgemental...if anything, Laderach gained new clients as a result of this thread.

Lost some (who weren't really clients to begin with, but neither the anti-anti-Laderach people), gained some. All in all, a very typical debate for EF, usually ending with the typical accusations of self-aggrandising, blah blah blah.

Vive la comédie!
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #96  
Old 14.09.2019, 17:59
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
You are clearly an old hypocrite if you support the rights of children outside uterus. How is this idea backwards and non-modern is explained the Journal of Medical Ethics https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261
You calling me old, cupcake? Good call. Nevertheless, I was writing about the propensity of certain anti choicers to support no abortion, but then fail to support programs to sustain children and their families especially if they are poor.
The following 7 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #97  
Old 14.09.2019, 18:03
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,732
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,639 Times in 8,014 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
You calling me old, cupcake? Good call. Nevertheless, I was writing about the propensity of certain anti choicers to support no abortion, but then fail to support programs to sustain children and their families especially if they are poor.
"You" in general, not you, edot. At least this is how I read it, but I'm proficient in non-native English.

Yacek, care to confirm?
  #98  
Old 14.09.2019, 18:22
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
Someone is a bit too judgemental...if anything, Laderach gained new clients as a result of this thread.

Lost some (who weren't really clients to begin with, but neither the anti-anti-Laderach people), gained some. All in all, a very typical debate for EF, usually ending with the typical accusations of self-aggrandising, blah blah blah.

Vive la comédie!
If it helps, I was a regular consumer of the bag of mixed slabs they do - not cheap, but a nice treat every now and again (or a bit more often than that, but I don't like to admit it!).

As I'm planning to begin a diet, it is a convenient time to become aware of Mr L's antediluvian views. I think DB might be taking up the slack I've created though
The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #99  
Old 14.09.2019, 18:35
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,732
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,639 Times in 8,014 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
If it helps, I was a regular consumer of the bag of mixed slabs they do - not cheap, but a nice treat every now and again (or a bit more often than that, but I don't like to admit it!).

As I'm planning to begin a diet, it is a convenient time to become aware of Mr L's antediluvian views. I think DB might be taking up the slack I've created though
It's easy to forget when to stop with Laderach chocolate, have to give them that.

For those who like to exercise some control over their sugar/chocolate cravings....dark, very dark chocolate. It's more than nothing....actually, depending on the brand it can be quite nice!

Good luck with the diet!
  #100  
Old 14.09.2019, 19:00
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Laderach (Läderach)... run by anti-gay and anti-abortion religious fundamentalist

Quote:
View Post
"You" in general, not you, edot. At least this is how I read it, but I'm proficient in non-native English.

Yacek, care to confirm?
How‘s your sarcasm?
Closed Thread

Tags
chocolate, laderach, lindt, sprungli




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anti female or anti English Toontoon Daily life 129 23.02.2015 10:36
Anti Bark Collar and other anti bark tips... MaybeeSkint Pet corner 24 30.07.2014 15:07
Anti Anti Thread Confloozed Complaints corner 54 01.02.2012 12:22
[Internet] FREE Anti Virus by Microsoft sagarbm21 General off-topic 21 01.10.2009 15:42
Managed anti-spam and anti-virus service for individual domain-owners spamchek Commercial 0 13.05.2005 11:22


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:14.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0