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it's not that i am really pro the e-vote (to be honest, if i could i would want to go into the gemeinde in person or do the outdoor swearing vote if i could like in appenzell?) to me that is such a swiss right...


however as i am 10,000 miles away i shall have to postal vote which is ok with me too.
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so I received a reply re: lost voting papers from the swiss embassy here :

"Thank you for your email. I am sorry to hear that you did not receive your voting material for the elections in October. Unfortunately, a lot of Swiss citizens living in Singapore had problems receiving their letters for the last elections. Many envelopes arrived late and some didn’t arrive at all.

We have heard back from several voting offices (including Zürich) that all the voting material was sent out 5-6 weeks before the elections, as usual. Unfortunately, once letters are mailed out they are out of our zone of influence. I hope you get your letter in time next time. Everything should be in order regarding your registration.

It depends a bit on the voting office, but some do allow Swiss citizens living abroad to vote there directly on voting day. In my canton, for example, I could have voted in person, if I had told them at least 6 weeks in advance. However, this might depend on your voting office.

I hope there’s no more issues in the future.
Best regards and have good afternoon"


I had enquired re: going directly to kloten (my gemeinde) to vote as i was present during the last vote. interesting answer with regards to that, i guess i would need to check with the gemeinde directly for that.
also seems i am not the only one with missing voting slips. shame for the overseas swiss living here..



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That reply is a bit superficial, no?

It's basically "awww, too bad. Better luck next time, baby"
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That reply is a bit superficial, no?

It's basically "awww, too bad. Better luck next time, baby"

the lady who wrote to me - i've met her - she really can't control what happens from each gemeinde (what with swiss of all gemeinde/cantons living here) she has followed up for me re: mispelling of my name, previous lost voting slips etc.
I suspect the problem lies within our own gemeindes back in switzerland. Perhaps they do place lower priorities to the overseas swiss I was tempted to go to Kloten gemeinde when I was back in ZH last month. But I wanted to follow proper procedure with going through the embassy here first.
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Old 07.11.2019, 10:01
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the lady who wrote to me - i've met her - she really can't control what happens from each gemeinde (what with swiss of all gemeinde/cantons living here) she has followed up for me re: mispelling of my name, previous lost voting slips etc.
I suspect the problem lies within our own gemeindes back in switzerland. Perhaps they do place lower priorities to the overseas swiss I was tempted to go to Kloten gemeinde when I was back in ZH last month. But I wanted to follow proper procedure with going through the embassy here first.
LOL, you're a very generous person.

I think if this is a general problem (and I'm not surprised, if every one of this funny looking letters has to find it's way seperately to the last spot in the world) they should send this through embassy mail (how ever they they transport important papers as these are important papers) and then delivered from there.

But I guess I won't be the one to invent the perfect system on this - I'm just surprised how easily they dismiss the problem of a Swiss not being able to exert THE basic right of a Swiss.
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I assume from all the replies that you are now a Natralized Swiss citizen and that you are now allowed to vote in Swiss elections?

I have been here nearly 20 years but although now retired here and did not learn enough German to become a naturlized citizen, I believe I still cannot vote in Switzerland nor can I vote in the UK as I am now non resident in the UKc for more than 15 years. Is this correct?
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Old 07.11.2019, 14:25
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I assume from all the replies that you are now a Natralized Swiss citizen and that you are now allowed to vote in Swiss elections?

I have been here nearly 20 years but although now retired here and did not learn enough German to become a naturlized citizen, I believe I still cannot vote in Switzerland nor can I vote in the UK as I am now non resident in the UKc for more than 15 years. Is this correct?

Facilitated. I put it off for many years (various reasons) and I only applied 2 years ago and received it last year.


Regarding your situation, if you are not a Swiss citizen you cannot vote, with regards to UK I do not know the law, maybe someone else can enlighten us?
If you need more info for regular naturalisation there is this thread :https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...ant-diary.html


and this : https://www.sem.admin.ch/
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Old 07.11.2019, 14:36
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I assume from all the replies that you are now a Natralized Swiss citizen and that you are now allowed to vote in Swiss elections?

I have been here nearly 20 years but although now retired here and did not learn enough German to become a naturlized citizen, I believe I still cannot vote in Switzerland nor can I vote in the UK as I am now non resident in the UKc for more than 15 years. Is this correct?
I went through facilitated naturalisation too, it still involved an interview in German though.

Yes if you have been out of the UK for over 15 years you can no longer vote there. Fortunately (given brexit) I can still vote in the UK as was last registered 7 years ago. I do wonder though, when my 15 years is up, if I could "go back" for a couple of months, register to vote (at a family address).... get another 15 years??
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Good news, my voting slip for the second round of Ständerates came through, a miracle! Now if i only knew which candidates to vote for....
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Good news, my voting slip for the second round of Ständerates came through, a miracle! Now if i only knew which candidates to vote for....
smartvote.ch can be helpful.
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Old 13.11.2019, 07:21
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smartvote.ch can be helpful.

yes i am aware of that site but thanks. i also went to https://www.wahlen.zh.ch
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Good news, my voting slip for the second round of Ständerates came through, a miracle! Now if i only knew which candidates to vote for....
THANK YOU for mentioning that. I just realized that voting slip is lying around here - so I better get a move on too!
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THANK YOU for mentioning that. I just realized that voting slip is lying around here - so I better get a move on too!

lol, you have time, i just sent mine off by snail mail (from singapore) might not meet the deadline...

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THANK YOU for mentioning that. I just realized that voting slip is lying around here - so I better get a move on too!
Mailing in is too late. You will have to go to the polling place.
In canton Zurich you can choose between Ruedi Noser FDP and Marionna Schlatter GP.
https://www.nzz.ch/zuerich/wahlen-20...ter-ld.1517733
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Mailing in is too late. You will have to go to the polling place.
In canton Zurich you can choose between Ruedi Noser FDP and Marionna Schlatter GP.
https://www.nzz.ch/zuerich/wahlen-20...ter-ld.1517733
Thanks, I found out about that. One of the two is the "kleinere Übel" for me - no I won't elaborate

I just packed it and thought I stick an A-stamp on it, to send it off tomorrow. That should work, no?
Otherwise I take a short stroll to the polling place on Sunday.
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Thanks, I found out about that. One of the two is the "kleinere Übel" for me - no I won't elaborate

I just packed it and thought I stick an A-stamp on it, to send it off tomorrow. That should work, no?
Otherwise I take a short stroll to the polling place on Sunday.
Might work. You can also drop it into the mail box of your Gemeinde. In Zurich this is at the Stadthaus not the Kreisbüro! At the Kreisbüro you must hand it in in person during opening hours. https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/...formation.html
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Mailing in is too late. You will have to go to the polling place.
In canton Zurich you can choose between Ruedi Noser FDP and Marionna Schlatter GP.
https://www.nzz.ch/zuerich/wahlen-20...ter-ld.1517733

thoughts on Ruedi Noser? I was also recommended these two to vote for by swiss friends.
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thoughts on Ruedi Noser? I was also recommended these two to vote for by swiss friends.
Well, they're the two who got the most votes in the first round (apart from the one who already made it in), so there is not much reason to start out new.

Do the deluxe voting advice on here. A lot of questions to answer plus you can give your answer a weight as well - the result will show you who you are (according to what they said before the election ) closest to and can help you with your decision. Plus a little extra googling.
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thoughts on Ruedi Noser? I was also recommended these two to vote for by swiss friends.
All other announced that they will no longer run for the remaining council of states seat. If you like neither you can still write in someone else. But in this round the person with the most votes will get the seat.

For other cantons see here https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/eidgenoes...nen-ld.1453268
In AG, BE, SG, and TI both seats are still available
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Do the deluxe voting advice on here. A lot of questions to answer plus you can give your answer a weight as well - the result will show you who you are (according to what they said before the election ) closest to and can help you with your decision. Plus a little extra googling.
Just one advice when using smartvote. I always found it important to look at the detailed analysis of the results, e.g. the candidates can write a short explanation for their answers. I find those quite helpful when I disagree with their answer (sometimes it even turns out that we agree on the issue).
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