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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

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I always felt the song with these words should be banned:

And through all
His wondrous childhood
He would honor and obey
Love and watch the lowly mother
In whose gentle arms He lay
Christian children all should be
Mild, obedient, good as He
Yes, even as a small child, I found this text quite nauseating and, having once been taught it, refused to sing it.
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Old 28.11.2019, 14:20
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

Anyway the current Christmas tradition is a cultural appropriation of an old pagan tradition by the catholic church
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Old 28.11.2019, 19:04
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

So a school decides what extra curricular activities it wants to do.

Shocker.

Next.
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Old 28.11.2019, 19:27
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So a school decides what extra curricular activities it wants to do.

Shocker.

Next.
Aw, let the blustering reactionaries have their annual "I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT..." festival.

I don't know what believers would do without their valiant defence of Christmas trees and poorly composed songs.
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Old 28.11.2019, 19:40
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So a school decides what extra curricular activities it wants to do.
I doubt that it is extra curricular.
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Old 28.11.2019, 20:21
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I doubt that it is extra curricular.
I would imagine it will all be taking place outside of regular school hours and I doubt there will be an exam on or school credit for carol singing, ipso facto, it's extracurricular.

Indeed, no mention of dinging one's dong merrily whilst high...

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Old 28.11.2019, 20:56
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I would imagine it will all be taking place outside of regular school hours and I doubt there will be an exam on or school credit for carol singing, ipso facto, it's extracurricular.
Not every little thing and step is graded and examined in school, nevertheless participation might be mandatory and absence subject to approval.

From the canton St. Gall school law:

Art. 17bis* Special events
1 The School Board may order or approve special events as part of compulsory education.
2 It:
a) share the costs with the parents to the extent that savings accrue to them;
b) may exempt pupils from participation for important reasons. Those who are exempt from participation are meaningfully engaged at school.
https://www.gesetzessammlung.sg.ch/f...file?locale=de

Ergo, de jure, ut declarari curriculare.

Added to the above that rehearsal is very most likely during official school hours and Christmas songs could be sung during the music lessons even when there is no special performance..
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Old 28.11.2019, 21:15
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Not every little thing and step is graded and examined in school, nevertheless participation might be mandatory and absence subject to approval.

From the canton St. Gall school law:

Art. 17bis* Special events
1 The School Board may order or approve special events as part of compulsory education.
2 It:
a) share the costs with the parents to the extent that savings accrue to them;
b) may exempt pupils from participation for important reasons. Those who are exempt from participation are meaningfully engaged at school.
https://www.gesetzessammlung.sg.ch/f...file?locale=de

Ergo, de jure, ut declarari curriculare.

Added to the above that rehearsal is very most likely during official school hours and Christmas songs could be sung during the music lessons even when there is no special performance..
You may want to look up the definition of curriculum. Hint, it involves things to be studied.

Your latin was well Google translated though, will give you that.
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

I play Christians songs all the time. Love Ideal World.
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The ex-skinhead who sings about CHRISTmas?



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I'm not very up to date with these Christmas carols.
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Old 03.12.2019, 18:03
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

Today I learnt that "Zimetschtern han i gern" was written by a Yorkshireman.

Not a lot of people knöö that.
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Today I learnt that "Zimetschtern han i gern" was written by a Yorkshireman.

Not a lot of people knöö that.
Mr. Bond? Had the fellow once as music teacher.
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Mr. Bond? Had the fellow once as music teacher.
The man himself!
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

My daughter and all the Mittelstufe kids from her school will be singing many Christmas songs (including Go tell it on the Mountain) with orchestra in Zurich this weekend. We are atheists but I personally don't care, these are just songs, why not? I'm especially pleased they will be singing the song originated from our home country, though my daughter hates it because other kids pronounce words incorrectly.
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My daughter and all the Mittelstufe kids from her school will be singing many Christmas songs (including Go tell it on the Mountain) with orchestra in Zurich this weekend. We are atheists but I personally don't care, these are just songs, why not? I'm especially pleased they will be singing the song originated from our home country, though my daughter hates it because other kids pronounce words incorrectly.
Yup, I know this. I had the same complaints this evening, but about kids buldosering a Frank Sinatra song and phrasing it in a peculiar way. I bet the kids will still be magnifaik.

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Anyway the current Christmas tradition is a cultural appropriation of an old pagan tradition by the catholic church
Anybody else watching Hogfather every year?
No but I reread it!

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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

We went to a school advent concert last weekend.

Lots of Christmas songs and a few carols. No overtly religious ones so someone is obviously following some rules - apart from some fantastic singing of some of Benjamin Britten's choral carol works.

Very talented young musicians and singers.

Highlights were a great big band rendition of Jingle Bells, and a string ensemble playing fast Irish folk music.
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Re: Primary school bans certain Christmas Carols

... which just shows that despite the pearl-clutching from the "War on Christmas" crowd, it's perfectly possible to hold a seasonal concert without overt religious content.

We were already doing this in the late nineties in England, so it's not really a new idea either. Why alienate when we can include?

Load of fuss over nothing.
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... which just shows that despite the pearl-clutching from the "War on Christmas" crowd, it's perfectly possible to hold a seasonal concert without overt religious content.

We were already doing this in the late nineties in England, so it's not really a new idea either. Why alienate when we can include?

Load of fuss over nothing.
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Careful, lest I let loose my Christian Soldiers, with their cross of Jesus going on before.
Plenty of that in our house, and in church on Christmas morning.

Just don't expect me to ram it down the throats of our Muslim, Hindu and atheist neighbours when all they want is a few candles and a song about reindeer.

There's a time and place for everything. I'm pretty sure there's a Psalm about that...
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