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Switzerland switches off nuclear plant

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At 12.30am on Friday, the red switches were flicked and the 47-year-old Mühleberg nuclear power station went offline permanently.
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Old 20.12.2019, 23:51
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It was just about time. Good news!
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Old 20.12.2019, 23:54
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Re: Switzerland switches off nuclear plant

That means I can now dispose of of the pack of iodine tablets they sent here ?
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Old 20.12.2019, 23:55
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Re: Switzerland switches off nuclear plant

They should keep the plants running!

Nobody has a foolproof risk free method of decommissioning such plants.

Much safer to keep them running and better for the environment than any non-nuclear replacements.
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Old 20.12.2019, 23:56
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That means I can now dispose of of the pack of iodine tablets they sent here ?
Better to keep them in case they screw up the decommissioning
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Old 20.12.2019, 23:59
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They should keep the plants running!

Nobody has a foolproof risk free method of decommissioning such plants.

Much safer to keep them running and better for the environment than any non-nuclear replacements.
Wir are going to Go nuclear if we want to Go Green.
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They should keep the plants running!

Nobody has a foolproof risk free method of decommissioning such plants.

Much safer to keep them running and better for the environment than any non-nuclear replacements.

i guess ms.sommaruga had different ideas..


"Transport and Energy Minister Simonetta Sommaruga tweeted that the future belonged to local, clean energy from the water and the sun"
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Old 21.12.2019, 00:14
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i guess ms.sommaruga had different ideas..


"Transport and Energy Minister Simonetta Sommaruga tweeted that the future belonged to local, clean energy from the water and the sun"
She is correct but there is a big gap between "today" and "the future".

If the global warmers are correct there will be "no glaciers" quickly followed by "no rivers" and no water to drive hydroelectric.

And there is no sun on cold winter nights.
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Old 21.12.2019, 00:19
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She is correct but there is a big gap between "today" and "the future".

If the global warmers are correct there will be "no glaciers" quickly followed by "no rivers" and no water to drive hydroelectric.

And there is no sun on cold winter nights.

agreed. I am suprised this is happening, also they will close the other plants too. I wonder if there was a vote on this (i assume there was) but as i have been out of the country so long (also being newly able to vote) i have not kept track...


i have to say i have noticed more wind turbines in the countryside over the years (visiting CH) much more than when i was living there pre-2010

also considering it is one of the oldest plants still working - i thought this would be shut down first...
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Old 21.12.2019, 00:42
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That means I can now dispose of of the pack of iodine tablets they sent here ?
Nope, still a few around.


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1975 - 2019. And still no end in sight, now we have to deal with the toxic waste.

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No there is not. The future begins now ....... now ...... and now .....


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agreed. I am suprised this is happening, also they will close the other plants too. I wonder if there was a vote on this (i assume there was) but as i have been out of the country so long (also being newly able to vote) i have not kept track.......
YOU posted the link that mentioned the referendum in 2017!
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YOU posted the link that mentioned the referendum in 2017!

yes i realised that now...
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Old 21.12.2019, 01:55
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YOU posted the link that mentioned the referendum in 2017!
I was in the garden the night that result was announced and there was a huge cheer in our area. I thought Switzerland had won the World Cup at least.
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Sounds like she has a big gap between her ears too !
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Old 21.12.2019, 08:50
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They should keep the plants running!

Nobody has a foolproof risk free method of decommissioning such plants.

Much safer to keep them running and better for the environment than any non-nuclear replacements.

I disagree. While I also think that we will need nuclear going forwad - nuclear power plants should not run longer than they have been designed to. As we know does radiation corrode the concrete they are made of - and there is a far higher risk than there should be from running the old ones forever. The Swiss and the Belgian plants are the oldest in Europe. If you want to go nuclear do we need research into newer, better plants and an investment to build them. "Just dont pull the plug" is not the answer. And if we believe that nuclear is the future do we need to learn how to decomission them as well as what to do with the trash they produce.
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Old 21.12.2019, 09:00
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Re: Switzerland switches off nuclear plant

I can well understand the NIMBY effect when you have a nuclear plant at the bottom of your garden, but this ageing plant should have been replaced with a new one.

Switzerland will import electricity as needed. From where? Germany is dropping all nuclear power and will rely on coal and Russian gas. Meanwhile France happily makes 70% of its output from nuclear. Let’s hope hydro will get enough rainfall in the future to power electric vehicles, which will be the majority of cars on the road in less than 20 years.

PS solar panel installers will be happy at least...
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Old 21.12.2019, 09:04
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That means I can now dispose of of the pack of iodine tablets they sent here ?
Keep em! There are still more on the grid.

https://www.ensi.ch/en/nuclear-facil...n-switzerland/
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I can well understand the NIMBY effect when you have a nuclear plant at the bottom of your garden, but this ageing plant should have been replaced with a new one.

Switzerland will import electricity as needed. From where? Germany is dropping all nuclear power and will rely on coal and Russian gas. Meanwhile France happily makes 70% of its output from nuclear. Let’s hope hydro will get enough rainfall in the future to power electric vehicles, which will be the majority of cars on the road in less than 20 years.

PS solar panel installers will be happy at least...
switzerland can go 100% solar!

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/bright-...and--/45350090

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i guess ms.sommaruga had different ideas..
She's an idiot.

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Re: Switzerland switches off nuclear plant

I've said it for years: There should be solar pannels on absolutely every roof in Switzerland - rented and run by the EKZ (and equivalent) for those who don't want to bother themselves. Looks like admin.ch is slowly catching up to this idea.

We have two wonderfully huge roofs here to do so and I keep nagging my landlord about it. She claimed we would not be allowed to do that here. When you approach our hamlet now, you can see huge solar panneled roofs. Of the neighbours.

A roof should be a sun collector or not exist. Basta.
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Wir are going to Go nuclear if we want to Go Green.
Wir are unclear if renewables Is a way to go grün!
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