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04.06.2021, 11:27
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Wonder why they put so much time and money into researching/producing viruses.
They should find out how to make humans as resistant as bats instead.
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04.06.2021, 12:41
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | However, would he turn out being right, it would proof his incapability as a politician and in leader even more as he was not willing to protect "his people". | | | | | It suspiciously seems that no matter what he did or did not do, he just didn't do it right. Even when he actually did the right thing  . Will the cancel culture campaigners now start calling it a Chinese virus? | Quote: |  | | | Basically I can only repeat my opinion that it's never good to ignore/dismiss anything people, who one generally regards as stupid, say. | | | | | That doesn't sound awfully generous, considering the fact that most people often call others 'stupid' when the only differ in opinion. The world called Trump an idiot. People get called idiots here too, unfortunately. Or trolls, when they simply differ in opinion. Should the world have accepted faster the origin and cause of this major pandemics, the outcome would have been different. SARS not SARS2.
People are too quick to call others stupid, idiot, deplorables or trolls when things simply just don't make sense to them. Yet.
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04.06.2021, 13:05
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | Should the world have accepted faster the origin and cause of this major pandemics, the outcome would have been different. SARS not SARS2. | | | | | I'm curious about by this hypothesis. Different in which way?
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04.06.2021, 13:24
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | |
It won't be fun to watch Biden hitting his head against a brick wall while reviewing the clown's administration.
| | | | | Can't really say I feel sorry for him.
After all, he was vice president when the clown was president.
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04.06.2021, 16:02
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I don't know why some of you think that truth will come out one day? Truth does not always come out.
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04.06.2021, 16:37
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Does anyone know where or how exactly one can read a copy of the "US intelligence report" that found that several researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill in November 2019 and had to be hospitalized?
After trying to dig into the "lab leak theory," it seems I am only able to trace it back as far as the "US intelligence report" but have not seen anywhere any mention of where or how that intelligence report sourced its information. So does anyone know where that intelligence report claims to have obtained that information about the researchers at the Wuhan lab becoming ill? And has that been verified?
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04.06.2021, 17:02
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know why some of you think that truth will come out one day? Truth does not always come out. | | | | | Are you implying truth is in the closet?
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04.06.2021, 21:53
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04.06.2021, 22:52
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IIRC, it was just about the same time as Golden Week, when millions of Chinese travel internationally. In hindsight, that looks deliberate to me if you accept that China wanted to spread the virus. | Quote: | |  | | | More likely just inept; look at the mishmash of rules in the UK with a traffic light system that often doesn't match the formal foreign office advice, and that's after about a year of planning.
And also a question of control - China can implement internal controls very easily with their extremely managed society; putting controls on international movement is more difficult even for them (and more visible). | | | | | | This user would like to thank My2pups for this useful post: | | 
04.06.2021, 23:47
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | IIRC, it was just about the same time as Golden Week, when millions of Chinese travel internationally. In hindsight, that looks deliberate to me if you accept that China wanted to spread the virus. | | | | | I don't think China wanted to spread the virus. Neither did I ever have the impression anybody suspecting the lab-theory as the source of the pandemic did.
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05.06.2021, 07:02
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know why some of you think that truth will come out one day? Truth does not always come out. | | | | | No..But bank accounts and financial profits do.
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05.06.2021, 08:18
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | I actually by mistake felt amogles uped the thread with post 87.
No, I didn't read your endless quote. I normally don't as they are not an opinion by the poster (which could at least trigger a new perspective to follow up) but copies from sources I can't check out myself (in this case due to paywall). Therefore I would have to take your word for it, that the quote was not manipulated. Not my mo. | | | | | Uhm, OK, dear.
Basically I would have had to manipulate the entire article, or at least a big chunk of it - and manipulating quotes is defo not my mo either! But it's OK to be so vigilant on EF, I sometimes do the same. I actually posted a couple more links one could have checked out though. From my pov your answer was really funny, you couldn't believe it till it was debated on SRF. Uhm, OK.
This hypothesis about the origins of the virus and the way it has spread is not that new though, many popular publications have written something about it, let alone more serious folks like those from MIT magazine etc. BBC, NYTimes, Washington Post.
I personally think this theory is plausible, but it's very unlikely we'll know the truth, in the sense they will have enough proofs to get China sanctioned or whatever. Or that they wish to do so. Or that the truth will make any difference in the future.
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06.06.2021, 01:03
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... https://patents.google.com/patent/US7220852B1/en...why is need a patent for a virus?...VIRUS word came from Latin and is literally meaning poison...
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06.06.2021, 10:22
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know why some of you think that truth will come out one day? Truth does not always come out. | | | | | Sometimes the truth does come out. Looks like Fauci might be joing to jail, stick him next to pedophile island guest of honor Bill Gates.
People here ridiculed me when I said Fauci had invested millions in the wu-flu lab.  He did, he lied, ruined millions of lives. The media is fake and Donald Trump was right once again.
Biochemical warfare is above my pay grade, but I think we will all hear about this someday soon. Funny how Wuhan was hosting the world military games when the escape happened. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
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06.06.2021, 10:36
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | Funny how Wuhan was hosting the world military games when the escape happened. Just a coincidence I'm sure. | | | | | This.
And Trump pulled Fauci in on purpose, I think, to mop up.
This also seems less of a conspiration theory: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000522076911
Dr. R. Delgado: A Reality Check on Covid (Dr. Reynolds Delgado, III, is a cardiologist specializing in heart failure and heart transplantation at Baylor St. Luke's Medical Center/Texas Heart Institute. Dr. Delgado has been a Basic Science Researcher in Heart Failure at the Texas Heart Institute, Baylor College of Medicine, and The University of Texas Houston Medical School since 1997, and has held the position of Medical Director of Mechanical Support Devices in Heart Failure at the Texas Heart Institute since 2003. His academic appointments include clinical assistant professor of medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and UT Health Science Center, Houston. He participates on numerous advisory boards, Including Thoratec Corporation, Medtronic Corporation, and Boston Scientific Corporation, and has been on the Medical Education Committee at Texas Heart Institute since 2004. He is also a long-standing research collaborator with NASA Johnson Space Center Human Space Flight Physiology Laboratory.)
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06.06.2021, 10:49
| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | Sometimes the truth does come out. Looks like Fauci might be joing to jail, stick him next to pedophile island guest of honor Bill Gates.
People here ridiculed me when I said Fauci had invested millions in the wu-flu lab. He did, he lied, ruined millions of lives. The media is fake and Donald Trump was right once again.
Biochemical warfare is above my pay grade, but I think we will all hear about this someday soon. Funny how Wuhan was hosting the world military games when the escape happened. Just a coincidence I'm sure. | | | | | The only fake around here is you.
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06.06.2021, 11:16
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I can't even keep up with the bullshit anymore. Nor am I sure that I would even want to. US politics has become little more than a perpetual blame game. And meanwhile, the country is falling apart.
It's hard to respect anyone who spends so much of their time pointing their finger at anyone and everyone that they can and yet consistently fails to accept or admit any accountability for their own behavior.
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06.06.2021, 11:22
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| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: |  | | | The only fake around here is you. | | | | | LMAO. Ok bafoon. | Quote: | |  | | | I can't even keep up with the bullshit anymore. Nor am I sure that I would even want to. US politics has become little more than a perpetual blame game. And meanwhile, the country is falling apart.
It's hard to respect anyone who spends so much of their time pointing their finger at anyone and everyone that they can and yet consistently fails to accept or admit any accountability for their own behavior. | | | | | I agree, but have you ever looked into a mirror.  | This user groans at California Dreamer for this post: | | 
06.06.2021, 11:27
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I agree, but have you ever looked into a mirror.   | | | | | Thank you for so perfectly exemplifying my point.
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06.06.2021, 13:07
| | Re: Conspiracy beliefs on the rise... | Quote: | |  | | | LMAO. Ok bafoon. | | | | | Well given that everything you claimed in that post as factual was in reality a provable lie then yes, you're the fake.
And if you continue to believe the most proven lying US president in history there really is no hope for you.
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