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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Thanks, NotAllThere, I've edited my post 57, above, to refer to your post 59.
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Old 17.03.2020, 12:27
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Olygirl, I was not saying we should not go out. I was saying if we do so, we should be considering the possible points of infection along the way. Just saying: think beforehand.

Specifically, I was replying to Smileygreebins, who seems to be planning not just a walk in the sunshine, but a long journey.

I said we need to consider the effects of our action before setting out, precisely because travel almost always brings one into situations which, in some way, compromise one's ability to properly do what you've right said is needed: to practice social distancing, and to follow hygienic procedures.

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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Just tried to re-book my Swiss flights (week-long trip to LCY starting end of March) for an IT training course - have been offered later course dates in October (which I am expecting should be ok by then) but the same flights on the new October dates will be cheaper and I should get a refund, but the Swiss system cannot handle such a refund :-(

So I have to call them to make the changes - but they ask not to call them until 3 days before the existing outward flight due to high call volumes currently !

Will probably done the hazmat suit and potter up to the airport tomorrow and do it directly.
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

One of the consequences of the border control are long lines, the A4 in the direction of Germany to Poland currently has a more than 40KM traffic line waiting upfront of the border.

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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Neighbour works at the local border- she said it was wo/manned since dawn, when normally it is only 2 hours per day, at random. They are checking permits, etc, and only letting in essential workers- not sure what that actually means in real terms. Border check helicopter has been flying around on and off all day.
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Will probably done the hazmat suit and potter up to the airport tomorrow and do it directly.
Just don't.

Rebook your flight and give them another call if things have settled down a bit more, October is a long way.
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Old 17.03.2020, 13:49
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

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They are checking permits, etc, and only letting in essential workers- not sure what that actually means in real terms.
People who don't work in restaurants, hair salons, most shop workers.

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Old 17.03.2020, 13:53
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

I changed my travel plans as well>

BA set up a page on their website where people can cancel their flights and get refunds in form of a BA voucher for the exact amount they spent on the ticket... valid for one year. Seems a manual process as it told me that I will receive my voucher by email "in the next five days"...

Hotel in central London was willing to cancel my non-refundable booking FOC.
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Old 17.03.2020, 14:19
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

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One of the consequences of the border control are long lines, the A4 in the direction of Germany to Poland currently has a more than 40KM traffic line waiting upfront of the border.

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And who are those clocking up the A4? Polish going home or Germans trying to invade Polish shops?

Is the Polish border not closed yet?
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Old 17.03.2020, 14:27
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And who are those clocking up the A4? Polish going home or Germans trying to invade Polish shops?

Is the Polish border not closed yet?

Polish border is closed but they´ll probably have more checks now.
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And who are those clocking up the A4? Polish going home or Germans trying to invade Polish shops?

Is the Polish border not closed yet?
Not a single border in Europe is fully closed, but checks are intensive and take time.

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Old 17.03.2020, 14:58
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And who are those clocking up the A4? Polish going home or Germans trying to invade Polish shops?

Is the Polish border not closed yet?
Its 40kms full of trucks, not shoppers. Eastern European trucker are the backbone of logistics in the EU. If borders are closed like those in France will a lot of them return to their home country. Many Polish, many will only pass through Poland to the Baltic states or Ukraine... Polish border police is questioning every single one about where he has been. Those guys drive for a living… thats going to be a lot of countries to list for each case.
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

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Not a single border in Europe is fully closed, but checks are intensive and take time.
Indeed, the closed 9 of 23 Ticino/Italy border crossings last week, and 5 more today, but that still leaves 9 open (one unmanned).

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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

This gives a nice overview of the border closures and openings around Geneva.

Seven have unrestricted openings, others only during certain hours, rest closed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.20min.ch/11600097
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Its 40kms full of trucks, not shoppers. Eastern European trucker are the backbone of logistics in the EU. If borders are closed like those in France will a lot of them return to their home country. Many Polish, many will only pass through Poland to the Baltic states or Ukraine... Polish border police is questioning every single one about where he has been. Those guys drive for a living… thats going to be a lot of countries to list for each case.
Those guys are the backbone of keeping our supermarkets, hospitals and industry provided. If they stop all of them for long-term it's about time to oil the guns. Total blockage will not happen, no government can permit itself such.
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Friend of a friend crossed the Polish to German border, walking her dog in the woods.
The border patrol on quad bikes in the forest, arrested her, charged, deported from Germany, and now under house quarantine for 14 days in Poland.
She has to appear in the window a couple of times a day when the police knock the door.
Now that is enforcing the law.
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

European Commission Explains What Happens With Foreigners Unable to Leave Due to Travel Restrictions
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...-restrictions/
17 March 2020
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People who don't work in restaurants, hair salons, most shop workers.

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Rumour has it in the UK that food industry is lobbying the government to allow restaurant workers to work in their food production facilities.
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Rumour has it in the UK that food industry is lobbying the government to allow restaurant workers to work in their food production facilities.
That's not a bad idea, or is it?

Are bars and restaurants even closed in the UK? Probably not as it is definitely the best place to get the herd infected?
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Old 17.03.2020, 18:43
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I changed my travel plans as well>

BA set up a page on their website where people can cancel their flights and get refunds in form of a BA voucher for the exact amount they spent on the ticket... valid for one year. Seems a manual process as it told me that I will receive my voucher by email "in the next five days"...

Hotel in central London was willing to cancel my non-refundable booking FOC.
I watched an interesting piece on the BBC saying that if at all possible, don't accept a voucher from airline, hotel, travel company etc.. Re-book for another date or get a refeund..

If they go bust a voucher will be worthless.. But bookings should be refunded by ATOL or insurance.
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