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My partner is stuck in Japan :(

I write here because I'm getting a bit desperate I'm Italian living in Switzerland since 2017, on a B permit. My girlfriend is Taiwanese and living in Japan. The plan was for her to finish her studies and then move here with me. And then the pandemic arrived


She's stuck in Japan, and we haven't met each other since February. We love each other and talk every day, but the situation is getting on our nerves.


I was *so much* waiting July 1st for the borders to reopen... and then I see this:


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However, third-country citizens are still not permitted to travel to Switzerland on holiday: entry for a stay of less than 90 days that does not normally require a permit will only be authorised in cases of special necessity..
Seriously, WTF???


I need to find a way around this, maybe meeting each other in some remote thirld world country, whatever, but we have been patient enough.


I understand long-distance relationships are not a priority right now given the global situation, but are we really a forgotten category???


I don't know, just needed to rant a bit does anyone have any advice? What if we plan to marry for example?
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Old 01.07.2020, 12:19
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Even if you marry it will take some time for her to be able to enter Switzerland.


Welcome to the club of "I miss my partner". Just cross your fingers that Japan will be added soon to the list of "open" countries.


And your WTF: safety of all people in Switzerland?
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

I understand empathy is not to be expected, so I'm not mad. I'll try to take your comment constructively


Japan is indeed on the list of 14 (15*) countries for which EU athorities *recommended* to lift the travel ban. This is official news. However, such list is just a recommendation, and individual countries make their own rules. My point being pissed is that nobody has seen any EU country adopt officially any travel ban exemption list whatsoever, not just Switzerland. Also, the reason of me being pissed is also that the announcement I linked is pretty unclear: on one side they say "from July 6th we lift the ban", on the other side "but not for tourism", and then "unless something happens".


Clarity much?


Regarding the safety of Switzerland: of course, I'm not advocating for indiscriminate return to travel. But on one hand Japan is on the list of those countries which infection rate in the last 14 days is lower than the EU average (EU: ~16, Japan: ~14 per 100000 inhabitants). And Switzerland is already Schengen-open, so...


On the other hand I hear people talking about safety, but still here in Zurich I see very few people (for sure less than in Italy, where I've been just a couple of weeks ago) wearing masks on the streets or on the public transport ("b... but masks are ineffective, it's just a conspiracy") and I read on the news that the reopening of disco clubs has already caused a couple of spread accidents ("b... but we dance keeping social distancing!")


So, allow me to repeat: seriously, WTF?
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Declare it a cases of special necessity

Just saw your other post. You have my full empathy. Unfortunately in this situation you'll have to settle for empathy I guess. It influences all our friend- and relationships and yup, it's tough.
Something tells me you two wouldn't keep the 1.50 rule either.


@roegner, I thought you're happily travelling back and forth again by now?
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Give it another year, or two.

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@roegner, I thought you're happily travelling back and forth again by now?

I am
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

As EU citizen and Schengen resident you're free to leave and return the EU/Schengen area since today. We're talking about it on this thread https://www.englishforum.ch/swiss-po...ml#post3195619
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As EU citizen and Schengen resident you're free to leave and return the EU/Schengen area since today. We're talking about it on this thread https://www.englishforum.ch/swiss-po...ml#post3195619

Yes but I'm not allowed to enter Japan
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Take a romantic cruise together.

There should be some great 6 weeks for the price of 1 deals.
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Take a romantic cruise together.

There should be some great 6 weeks for the price of 1 deals.
Absolutely. If OP gets lucky, the ship will be blocked from landing and they can really test their relationship.
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Yes but I'm not allowed to enter Japan
For a lift of the travell ban two conditions must be met:
- Corona activity below EU average.
- No travel ban from the other country.

As long as Japan has a travel ban for EU/EFTA nationals and residence so long will have the EU one.

If you want to move in together for good and not just short term your only option is to get married and apply for a visa. Nevertheless, concubine visas (for long term stays) are now also processed.
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...e%20exceptions

Otherwise you will have to find a country were you are both allowed to travel to and back. The biggest hurdle for this might be the lack of flights.

But if you are lucky she can travel from Japan to Switzerland:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/p...ird-countries/
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Relaxation of measures applicable to third countries from 6 July 2020
The definitive rules that will apply in the next step to ease measures on 6 July will be announced in due course and published on this page. We recommend that you consult our website regularly for the latest information.

The Federal Council plans to lift all corona-related restrictions on the admission of workers from third countries, i.e. countries outside the EU and the EFTA, from 6 July.

Also on 6 July, restrictions will be lifted on stays of longer than 90 days for third-country citizens who are not in employment, such as pensioners. From this date, the cantons will again begin to process applications from these persons in accordance with the normal provisions on the admission of foreign nationals

However, third-country citizens are still not permitted to travel to Switzerland on holiday: entry for a stay of less than 90 days that does not normally require a permit will only be authorised in cases of special necessity..

If possible, Switzerland plans to lift these final entry restrictions at the same time as the other Schengen states. A gradual and coordinated approach to lifting the ban on entry is planned, in line with developments in the epidemiological situation in these third countries; for some states, restrictions may be lifted before 6 July. The EU Commission will regularly update a list of third countries to facilitate coordination. In consultation with the FDHA and the FDFA, the FDJP will adapt the entry regulations for Switzerland step by step.
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...e%20exceptions
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Good news for the OP.
The travel ban from Japan will be lifted by July 20th.
This has been decided today by the federal council.
More news will follow
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Just saw it, these are great news, finally!


Let's just hope there is no major changes in the next 20 days :|
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Good news for the OP.
The travel ban from Japan will be lifted by July 20th.
This has been decided today by the federal council.
More news will follow
The website of the Federal Council isn't 100% clear - does that only apply to Japanese citizens or does it also apply to residents of Japan regardless of nationality? I know a lot of the restrictions we've seen related to citizenship not just residency. I'd hate for italo to get his hopes up only to have them dashed again.
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The website of the Federal Council isn't 100% clear - does that only apply to Japanese citizens or does it also apply to residents of Japan regardless of nationality? I know a lot of the restrictions we've seen related to citizenship not just residency. I'd hate for italo to get his hopes up only to have them dashed again.
They say they will follow the EU recommendations (safe for Serbia which is excluded):
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...020-07-01.html

The EU recommendation is based on residency, not citizenship:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/p...ird-countries/
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Re: My partner is stuck in Japan :(

Hello everybody, just wanted to follow up with some updates


We made it! The days around the tragic date of July 20th were really frenetic. Aapparently the immigration office was not updating the official website in real time, accurate information appeared only on the 23rd, I managed after many tries to talk at the phone with an operator but she was not 100% sure either.


We decided to take the risk, and my girlfriend booked a flight arriving in Switzerland on July 21st. No direct flights. We had two choices: layover in Dubai (cheaper), or layover in Amsterdam (double the price). We decided to minimize risk and take the Amsterdam one, and this was a very wise choice: as we discovered only afterwards, Swiss authorities do not screen passengers according to residence or nationalities, but according to the origin of the inbound flight! As Dubai was not on the whitelist at the time, my girlfriend would have been refused entry! Instead, as she was coming from Amsterdam, no issues at all. Actually, since the Netherlands had already adopted the EU-recommended whitelist from July 1st, she could have come already beginning of July!


So, all is good now We spent a wonderful month together and now it's time to think of the future, but this is matter for another post.



Thank you all anyway for the support!
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