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Terrorists in Switzerland?

"A dozen suspicious devices discovered in an unoccupied villa in Murten (FR) have been neutralized, announced Wednesday evening the Fribourg police. A large part of these objects were decoys, according to initial analyses.

During the search of the house in Murten, about ten suspicious objects, visually displaying all the characteristics of a DEINC (Non-Conventional Explosive or Incendiary Device) were found. They were examined by specialists from the EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal, Removal, Detection of Explosive Devices) group.

Since Monday, a major police operation was set up following the discovery of a suspicious package inside an uninhabited house. EOD specialists from the Vaud Cantonal Police have determined that it was a metal box, to which a remote control was connected and which contained various items such as electric cables, gas bottles and white matter, the Fribourg cantonal police said in a statement.

Suspicious objects neutralized
All these elements have been neutralized. An analysis carried out by the FOR (Forensic Institute of Zurich) determined that no explosive or incendiary substances were present.

Around ten other suspicious objects were found inside the house. In order to neutralise them, the specialists had to analyse them separately to determine their composition. During the delicate phases of the intervention, the neighbours close to the house, i.e. about ten people, were asked to leave their homes.

An object visually resembling an anti-personnel mine had to be neutralized with an explosive charge. The detonation could be perceived in the vicinity. A large proportion of the suspect objects were decoys, but analyses are still being carried out.

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The Public Prosecutor's Office of the Confederation (MPC) has been informed in advance by the Fribourg authorities because of its responsibility for offences related to explosives, the institution said Wednesday in Keystone-ATS. The investigation is being conducted by the Fribourg cantonal police.

Workers discovered a suspicious object in the unoccupied villa on Monday around 10:45 am. While searching the house, the Fribourg police found others. The villa had been unoccupied since the death of its owner in 2019. An investigation was opened."

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https://www.bluewin.ch/fr/infos/fait...ts-425426.html
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Old 13.08.2020, 18:47
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Re: Terrorists in Switzerland?

Is that 2017 story relevant?
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Is that 2017 story relevant?
it’s about “terrorists” in Switzerland.
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Old 13.08.2020, 22:10
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it’s about “terrorists” in Switzerland.
And highly amusing. Got a Trump touch to it though, same how-to-classes attended?
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Old 13.08.2020, 22:17
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Re: Terrorists in Switzerland?

Does anyone expect anything else? We've got a bunch of people who've been waiting in limbo for years to find out if their asylum request will be granted, who may well be mentally affected by that and ripe for radicalisation. And there's always your standard evil b*gger.

Yes. There are terrorists in Switzerland. Some of them are planning attacks in Switzerland. Thankfully, there's not many, and so far they've been neutralised.
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Old 13.08.2020, 22:37
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In Switzerland ? Terrorism ist VERBOTEN !
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Does anyone expect anything else? We've got a bunch of people who've been waiting in limbo for years to find out if their asylum request will be granted, who may well be mentally affected by that and ripe for radicalisation. And there's always your standard evil b*gger.
A man from Iran set himself on fire a few weeks ago in the middle of the Bundesplatz in Bern when his asylum application was rejected. Must not be easy...so far, most rejections seem to result in petty crime rather than terrorism.

The last thing 2020 needs right now is a terror attack.
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Re: Terrorists in Switzerland?

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An analysis carried out by the FOR (Forensic Institute of Zurich) determined that no explosive or incendiary substances were present.
The existence of the "decoys" ("leurres" in the French article, literally 'lures' in English, but I think it's a fairly good translation in the context) seems more to indicate an elaborate hoax or practical joke than anything else, albeit one with consequences. These sorts of things do occur from time to time, often perpetrated by mentally disturbed people who just want a bit of excitement in their lives.

My money's on the latter, with no link whatsoever to any real terrorists.

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Old 14.08.2020, 11:59
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Re: Terrorists in Switzerland?

The CH intelligence services said they stopped an attack in Geneva last year. It could have been awful https://www.thelocal.ch/20200217/how...rrorist-attack

Historically, there has been radicalization and terror attacks around here https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/focus-p...rland/45810314

I guess no one tops the murder of an Austrian Empress on 1898...when the Austrian-Hungarian Empire comprised Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and parts of Poland, Ukraine, Romania, even the south Tyrol. Switzerland was described as safe haven for extremists at the time https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/series-...eart-/44844170
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A man from Iran set himself on fire a few weeks ago in the middle of the Bundesplatz in Bern when his asylum application was rejected. Must not be easy...so far, most rejections seem to result in petty crime rather than terrorism.

The last thing 2020 needs right now is a terror attack.
It's ok. ISIS are afraid of covid-19 and are instructing their murdering *******s not to go into infidel territory.
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Re: Terrorists in Switzerland?

As Switzerland will not deport people to Iran, it is particularly difficult for Iranian nationals (mostly Kurds) who are refused. They cannot immigrate, they cannot return to Iran and they cannot go to a third country. Not sure if Limbo or purgatory best describes their situation
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As Switzerland will not deport people to Iran, it is particularly difficult for Iranian nationals (mostly Kurds) who are refused. They cannot immigrate, they cannot return to Iran and they cannot go to a third country. Not sure if Limbo or purgatory best describes their situation
What an odd post. You make it sound as if they should be deported as that would get them out of this limbo (and potentially right into hell).
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No, I’m not suggesting that they be returned to Iran. Many face the death penalty (for crimes such as converting to Christianity). I was attempting to explain the frustrations highlighted by Suzie-Q in a previous post.

I don’t have the answer but solutions need to be found.
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Yes. In CH there is Antifa-usually rich kids trying to rebel.
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What an odd post. You make it sound as if they should be deported as that would get them out of this limbo (and potentially right into hell).
Strange what you read into posts sometimes, as it's clearly not what bowlie said.

The point here actually is, that not being accepted here yet not being sent back - for good reasons - leaves these people in limbo. It does, I had to witness it too many times.
As there is a darn good reason they can't go back (Bern even admits it, in writing!!), they should not be refused asylum here. But the most they get is an F permit (vorläufige Aufnahme, god knows why it's called F ).

The standard reply from Bern to the asylum seeker is: "You do fulfil the asylum criteria" .... to be followed by "your application for asylum is rejected". And the "as you can't be sent back, you are preliminarily admitted". This reply is not even logic, yet it's common practice for decades!!!
How many times have I seen a face light up at the first sentence just to turn heart broken at the next. It is an infuriating tactic! They can not settle - hardly any of them actually get a job as employers babble, they only take B permit and better. They can't move on either because Schengen has this "wonderful" system that you can not - under no circumstances - demand asylum in any other country but the first you did. Leaves them in limbo. Life is put on hold .... for good.
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None of the many, many I know have turned to terrorists. Just in case .....
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Strange what you read into posts sometimes, as it's clearly not what bowlie said.

The point here actually is, that not being accepted here yet not being sent back - for good reasons - leaves these people in limbo. It does, I had to witness it too many times.
That's a difficult state, obviously. And it's supposedly caused by Bern not sending them back, ergo they should. Unless that not-sending-them-back is seen as a positive nonetheless (or at least a non-negative), in which case Bern shouldn't be blamed but thanked. That's what makes it odd.
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Old 15.08.2020, 15:01
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That's a difficult state, obviously. And it's supposedly caused by Bern not sending them back, ergo they should. Unless that not-sending-them-back is seen as a positive nonetheless (or at least a non-negative), in which case Bern shouldn't be blamed but thanked. That's what makes it odd.
The disability to grasp meaning from reading seems to be a far wider spread problem in Switzerland than I realized so far.
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