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Old 09.01.2021, 13:49
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

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Unbelievable indeed.

Anyhow, in the case of this girl, the Netherlands insists on a test before travelling, so the option not to have one was not there.
Indeed, and it sounds like she's going to be in quite a bit of trouble. She not only broke quarantine, she falsified documents. She was probably just a scared kid who wound up with more than she bargained for.

https://dutchreview.com/news/dutch-g...ke-covid-test/
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

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And the Dutch now, from Nendaz in next Valley to Verbier.

Une touriste testée positive en Valais voulait fuir la Suisse, mal lui en a pris. La jeune Néerlandaise a été arrêtée à l’aéroport de Zurich avant d’embarquer.

Suite à des informations fournies par les autorités valaisannes, la police cantonale zurichoise a arrêté mardi à l’aéroport une touriste néerlandaise. Elle voulait se rendre à l’étranger alors qu’elle avait été testée positive au Coronavirus et mise en isolement.

La jeune fille de 17 ans a été testée positive au coronavirus en Valais, selon la police cantonale. Elle voulait prendre l’avion pour Amsterdam, mais a été arrêtée à la porte d’embarquement par la police.

The 17 year old Dutch tourist tested positive in Valais and was put in quarantine, but decided to make a run for it to go home. She was arrested at Zurich airport before she could go through Departure Gate.
Pretty stupid to fly from somewhere within Switzerland. If she escaped to France or Italy she would probably have gotten away with it. Not much sympathy as she's actually tested positive and lied.
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Old 09.01.2021, 14:59
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

My Dutch GF told me about this story. Not only did she break quarantine after 4 days (apparently the hotel called the police when they realised) but she changed her postive test document to negative (I guess it was digital so easy to do). She was fined 1900.00 CHF and an ambulance took her back to her hotel to finish her quarantine. I guess the ambulance will be a lot more than the fine. Silly girl.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

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For me, this rather sums up the problem. Surely it's not about schoolboy tricks, but taking responsibility.
One would think so. But given how this was handled domestically, especially by the Cantons but also the Federal Council, this message simply isn't there. This, plus the seeming lack of importance and urgency, is the main differences between now and the lockdown in the spring.

It's no surprise if people don't take seriously either and prioritise their personal gain, or try to trick "the system". The Dutch girl is unlikely to be the only one, it's much more likely that she's just the tip of the iceberg.

And, as FMF pointed out, don't take a test in the first place.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

if the country and airline request the test- then you either do, or you don't travel.
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For me, this rather sums up the problem. Surely it's not about schoolboy tricks, but taking responsibility.
Perfectly responsible, follow the rules as laid down by the government.
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if the country and airline request the test- then you either do, or you don't travel.
Any commercial airline won't be able to insist on tests, many people are frightened & don't want to fly at all, especially those people that want to insist on tests being mandatory.
Rather like AIDS tests, the Swiss have them routinely, however getting a mortgage in the UK after having a negative test is more difficult. Life insurance companies believe people who have taken a test are higher risk customers, ones they chose to avoid.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

The Paris airports are not in Ile de France. But the rule is not about where you fly from, but which part of France you have been staying in:

''Travellers coming to Malta from the ‘Green List' of safe countries will NOT be subjected to a swab test on arrival. There will only be thermal screening at the airport and persons arriving will be asked to fill a self-declaration form requesting information on their travels in the previous 30 days. Specifically, they will be asked to confirm that they have not travelled anywhere outside the safe countries listed.

in this case, outside Ile de France, anywhere else in France or Europe and Switzerland.
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...Any commercial airline won't be able to insist on tests, many people are frightened & don't want to fly at all, especially those people that want to insist on tests being mandatory...
Some airlines are already are requiring tests based on destination. Airlines would be stupid not to require people to show their tests for travel to destinations that require tests (e.g. UK, Netherlands, Australia). Otherwise the person risks getting turned away, which means more hassle for the carrier to take them back.

But carriers on their own? You're probably right.

On our return flight to CH we were asked by the carrier if we had a negative PCR test. We said no, our final destination of Switzerland doesn't require it and we are not doing a stopover. There was a bit of a back and forth, and once they verified CH rules they let it go. But they were asking all passengers for tests regardless of final destination. Most seemed to have them. I'm not sure if everyone else was going to countries that require it, or if they just did it to be "safe"?

Almost every transport company reserves the right to refuse boarding, so I guess if they wanted they could have been jerks about it.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

My post above is not from an Airline, but from the official Maltese Government site. People who stay and remain in Ile de France for the whole time, are exempt from test- people who have stayed or travelled anywhere else in France, have to take test.

All very clear and simple.

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The Paris airports are not in Ile de France. But the rule is not about where you fly from, but which part of France you have been staying in:

''Travellers coming to Malta from the ‘Green List' of safe countries will NOT be subjected to a swab test on arrival. There will only be thermal screening at the airport and persons arriving will be asked to fill a self-declaration form requesting information on their travels in the previous 30 days. Specifically, they will be asked to confirm that they have not travelled anywhere outside the safe countries listed.

in this case, outside Ile de France, anywhere else in France or Europe and Switzerland.
I thought you could not see my posts

Assuming you can read & understand what you highlighted, there would be no problem. Your summary is not what is written in the legal notice, therefore not applicable.
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My post above is not from an Airline, but from the official Maltese Government site. People who stay and remain in Ile de France for the whole time, are exempt from test- people who have stayed or travelled anywhere else in France, have to take test.
Again you are interpreting the legal notice, no interpretation is required, just exactly what is written is law.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

Oh no the Brits are blamed again !! for the cancellation of this years Lauberhorn ski race
in Switzerland. Instead it will be held at a venue in Austria.
Apparently a British tourist is blamed for a spike in Covid infections in Wengen over the
Christmas holiday period.

BBC News - British tourist blamed for Lauberhorn ski race cancellation
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Oh no the Brits are blamed again !! for the cancellation of this years Lauberhorn ski race
in Switzerland. Instead it will be held at a venue in Austria.
Apparently a British tourist is blamed for a spike in Covid infections in Wengen over the
Christmas holiday period.

BBC News - British tourist blamed for Lauberhorn ski race cancellation
Ouch, things must of taken a drastic turn for the worse, as if a couple days ago it was still on. But with quite drastic measures as I understood, like whole village quarantined, and only racers allowed on the pistes, etc.
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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

today British tourists trying to board the EuroStar to go on to TGV to come skiing in Switzerland, were arrested at St Pancras and prevented from boarding (by French border guards).
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today British tourists trying to board the EuroStar to go on to TGV to come skiing in Switzerland, were arrested at St Pancras and prevented from boarding (by French border guards).

They should have been arrested by the Brits - under lockdown all non essential international travel is banned.


No matter how much you love skiing... unless it's your job or you are an elite sportsman... it ain't essential right now.



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Re: 200 Brits Escape from Verbier

totally agree. Loads of selfish idiots out there doing everything to break or by-pass the rules.
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My post above is not from an Airline, but from the official Maltese Government site. People who stay and remain in Ile de France for the whole time, are exempt from test- people who have stayed or travelled anywhere else in France, have to take test.

All very clear and simple.
That’s not what the government site wrote, you even claimed Ile de France does not include Paris.
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