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That's not what she meant. Read again. Try to understand too.
Guys can have multiple orgasms too, nothing unique with girls.
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I am glad that a multi-O can be quite an autonomous experience, too. Not that I prioritize solo. I like knowing how to complement.
Better together than alone. You keep using that word...

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Well! If the boat is sinking it's women and children first into the life boats.
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Soo, in the incinerator she must go?

Seems to be the day for gender discussion. I had my A level teaching exam lessons today and one expert really asked why I didn't asked a question to the only 2 girls in class ...I was really glad that my mark was set in stone before that discussion started.
So... why didn't you? Obvious group minorities are important to consider when in a classroom discussion.


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There's your fundamental error. You may think it is, but that doesn't make it true. It's called opinion.

Hysteria is your term, not mine. But I acknowledge it and may use it in the future. Blame yourself, not me.

I wasn't talking to you. Surprising as this may be, it's not all about you.

Therefore addressed long ago and water under the bridge.

Irrelevant.

I see your point quite well, I just dare to disagree.

And don't try to fool yourself or others. The fact that you keep bringing up stuff that is long past has only one reason. And that is to shame and put blame.
If you say so dear.

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I think RufusB meant that males are discriminated on this front. By nature.
I did indeed.
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Guys can have multiple orgasms too, nothing unique with girls.
Perhaps you never went to any of the clubs I linked to earlier before it was deleted as advertising. No doubt somebody reported the post as it was too racy for their comfort
No. You can have one at a time after a rest period [of whatever time you need]. Women can go and go and go. Like a chain reaction because, you know, biology.
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Old 19.03.2021, 21:10
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I don't know. Has chivalry died? Most people I know still help women with heavy stuff or keep the doors open.
I still do it for men, not just women.

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I still do it for men, not just women.

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Exactly.
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Very sad if you think you have found one there.

I won't push it as last time I did you self deleted. I actually feel very sorry for you.





Oh boy. That's a good one. Singular though. Obvs.
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I still do it for men, not just women.

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Me too, on the grounds that a door in the face is likely to offend.
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Either MC's English comprehension is not as good as she thinks it is or she has had a very very naïve life. It baffles me why a woman would say these things other than to pander to the men in this thread.

Someone name a worldwide privilege that women have that is not related to childbirth.

Someone name an actual example of discrimination against men.
Are you listening to yourself? Nowadays, boys are grown being taught that it's sexism to seat in a public place with their legs not crossed or not tightly closed.

Out of roughly 56 countries with active conscription worldwide, in only 11 the conscription applies to women.

Criminal courts treat more leniently women defendants.

The list can go on and on..

This doesn't mean that women are not recipients of sexism. But it's 2021, I can't believe how there are still people thinking that they have no gender related privileges over their opposite gender.
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Me too, on the grounds that a door in the face is likely to offend.
Though I guess at times a door in the face could be the best thing you can do.

Damn' the politeness some of us have been brainwashed with. (I'm kidding)
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No. You can have one at a time after a rest period [of whatever time you need]. Women can go and go and go. Like a chain reaction because, you know, biology.
No need for a rest period, I remember being told on my 40th birthday by a 30 years old, I did not realise older men could do it more than once

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"I don't hold the door because you are a woman, I hold it because I am a gentleman"

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"I don't hold the door because you are a woman, I hold it because I am a gentleman"

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Or I don't hold the door because you're a woman, but because you're a human being? Dads with prams for instance are also helped to get off a bus or tram etc.
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Are you listening to yourself? Nowadays, boys are grown being taught that it's sexism to seat in a public place with their legs not crossed or not tightly closed.

Out of roughly 56 countries with active conscription worldwide, in only 11 the conscription applies to women.

Criminal courts treat more leniently women defendants.

The list can go on and on..

This doesn't mean that women are not recipients of sexism. But it's 2021, I can't believe how there are still people thinking that they have no gender related privileges over their opposite gender.
It can be impolite and vulgar, not sure about sexist. Or selfish.

I had no idea criminal courts treat women more leniently. Is there a study about it or just a general assumption?

As for military conscription - most countries gave up this practice as they have professional i.e. payed armies. My husband did his military service a couple decades ago, he was among the last generations. He seems to have enjoyed that time, the friendships he made back then.
Is it such a bad thing in CH for instance?
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Are you listening to yourself? Nowadays, boys are grown being taught that it's sexism to seat in a public place with their legs not crossed or not tightly closed.

Out of roughly 56 countries with active conscription worldwide, in only 11 the conscription applies to women.

Criminal courts treat more leniently women defendants.

The list can go on and on..

This doesn't mean that women are not recipients of sexism. But it's 2021, I can't believe how there are still people thinking that they have no gender related privileges over their opposite gender.
I am. I'm also hearing a lot of ruffled manfeathers.

Most counties have career armies.

Manspreading is just inconsiderate, not sexist.

Re criminal courts: do they really? I'd be interested in seeing the data/Proof / studies for that.

What other examples ?

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I hold a door because it's the polite considerate thing to do.

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Or I don't hold the door because you're a woman, but because you're a human being? Dads with prams for instance are also helped to get off a bus or tram etc.
Exactly.



Just seen your last post GM. Agree.

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I am. I'm also hearing a lot of ruffled manfeathers.
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....and something else, I can't really guess what issues some folks here have. Their world. Whatevs.

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I am. I'm also hearing a lot of ruffled manfeathers.

Most counties have career armies.

Manspreading is just inconsiderate, not sexist.

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So... why didn't you? Obvious group minorities are important to consider when in a classroom discussion.
It wasn't really a discussion, more of an "what could be the reason" "whats your solution to" kind of thing. No need to discriminate between genders there (when talking about radioactivity)
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It wasn't really a discussion, more of an "what could be the reason" "whats your solution to" kind of thing. No need to discriminate between genders there (when talking about radioactivity)
Of course, it's just useful to be aware if any unconscious bias is creeping in and to have an answer when being observed. Good luck with the teacher training.
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Soo, in the incinerator she must go?
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Godwin? Perhaps is the time some kinder mods lock the thread as it has reached its quota...

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Seems to be the day for gender discussion. I had my A level teaching exam lessons today and one expert really asked why I didn't asked a question to the only 2 girls in class ...I was really glad that my mark was set in stone before that discussion started.
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So... why didn't you? Obvious group minorities are important to consider when in a classroom discussion.
I wondered that too.

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It wasn't really a discussion, more of an "what could be the reason" "whats your solution to" kind of thing. No need to discriminate between genders there (when talking about radioactivity)
Then with due respect, it really doesn't make any sense. I have never encountered teachers who treated students differently in regards with the subjects they taught. Everyone must fulfil the same requirements, if not you're out. Those commies.

OH is interviewing lots of people for engineering positions. He never asks different questions. Their company would be in bankruptcy today if they hired on criteria other than merits and qualifications.

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Of course, it's just useful to be aware if any unconscious bias is creeping in and to have an answer when being observed. Good luck with the teacher training.
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Godwin? Perhaps is the time some kinder mods lock the thread as it has reached its quota...

Nope a jonathan pie reference
https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...ke-utopia.html
That video kind of stuck i my head

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Then with due respect, it really doesn't make any sense. I have never encountered teachers who treated students differently in regards with the subjects they taught. Everyone must fulfil the same requirements, if not you're out. Those commies.


OH is interviewing lots of people for engineering positions. He never asks different questions. Their company would be in bankruptcy today if they hired on criteria other than merits and qualifications.
Neither do I. That was an answer to RufusB who said I should. I partially agree though that there can be setting were paying attention to include input on both genders is beneficial or even necessary. Imagine a history lesson about voting rights or the social security system. I wouldn't make my job as a moderator properly, If I didn't make sure there is input from both genders.

However, that applies certainly not to a chemistry lesson with mainly K1 or K2 question. In such a setting, asking a question to a student just because she is female would be inherently sexist. (Expecially since I never asked a question to a student who had not raised his or her (We recently had a discussion about pronouns, can I use their as singular here? ) hand in the whole 90 min.)
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Nope a jonathan pie reference
https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...ke-utopia.html
That video kind of stuck i my head



Neither do I. That was an answer to RufusB who said I should. I partially agree though that there can be setting were paying attention to include input on both genders is beneficial or even necessary. Imagine a history lesson about voting rights or the social security system. I wouldn't make my job as a moderator properly, If I didn't make sure there is input from both genders.

However, that applies certainly not to a chemistry lesson with mainly K1 or K2 question. In such a setting, asking a question to a student just because she is female would be inherently sexist. (Expecially since I never asked a question to a student who had not raised his or her (We recently had a discussion about pronouns, can I use their as singular here? ) hand in the whole 90 min.)
Im not very familiar with Jonathan Pie or the woke culture. I'm quite interested in sociology and history but wouldn't consider myself an expert in every social movement etc. I'm quite skeptical about some. I like to see opposing views too, but only when genuine and debated in good faith. I'm not a fan of noisy, excitable Trump style debates and the divide et impera kind of manipulations, not even when done to increase fora traffic.
I agree with most of your post, thanks for taking the time to write it here.
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