To lower it to 60.

Tom

Unions & tariff's lead to a lower pay for the best people, who then negotiate for themselves & earn more.
I always earned more than the person I replaced, by about 70% for my job in Zurich, the Swiss person I replaced was useless, however had held the job for 10 years.
If negotiating & putting across an argument are valuable skills, people should spend time working on these skills.

I wasn't even born then (1971,lets forget about AI), so it certainly wasn't yesterday.
As a young parent, I can say that you migh be surprised how much pressure my wife gets to go back into work instead of staying at home. And we live out in the sticks. So from my perspective that changed a lot.
Agreed, some systems, like schools, are assuming that one parent (yes, gender neutral) is at home and takes responsability for their spawn

I'm not sure is only the gender - might be the culture too. You have no idea how many men are crap at negotiating salaries, work conditions etc. But basically, yes. Women are less assertive. If they do negotiate, they're witches. If they don't, it's their fault. But same goes for men too, sometimes. Damned if you do it, damned if you don't.

Haha, of course. What does the population ageing rate allows us?

That's what came out in the "Ständerat". Now the subject goes on the the "Nationalrat" .... so your info the way you phrased it is wrong!

Personally I don't know why woman should be retired at 64. If it's because of the amount of more work for even less pay we do all our lives, we should get full pension at 50

You must not care about what others think, that in itself is probably the biggest issue.

I know a company who advertised for 2 jobs almost identical job descriptions (different references) one with a salary 15% higher. 4 times as many applicants for the lower paying job fairly evenly distributed between men / women. The higher paying job had only men applying.

#AnecdotesAreNotEvidence

This. While not everyone wants to hire a free thinker, a free thinker can always up his negotiation skills to get hired. Both men and women.

And whatever other genders.

Since there is no business argument to pay more than needed, I believe people are paid roughly what they are worth as the job market is fairly efficient.

Well, because of COVID, life expectancy is going down, so should be no problem to lower it!

Tom

that is a non sequitur. people paid roughly what they are worth is no argument to your anecdote of men only applying to the higher paying job

Only 1 women has applied to Fundsmith as a fund manager, they don't advertise & rely on submissions.

do you have a statistical analysis of applications of jobs per gender across any field?

It did not happened in your generation. But I see a bit of that idea of hire a woman/immigrant at 15-20% discount on mine. I now know the numbers at my job and I get paid the same as a woman. I can do better and always negotiating in that direction.

And it's a damned avalanche for my nephews at 20 YO. I try to explain to them that they need to be really competitive, either by low price or high specialization. If they're too picky about income or job conditions after college (this year), a woman will just take whatever is offered and they'll become one of these guys complaining about not finding a job for several years.

What I can tell you is 67% of all part time employment is filled by women, so I would suggest more women apply for part time jobs than men.
Therefore it's not a surprise that women with full time jobs represent 37.9% of the workforce.

Men would appear to work more hours than women, so it would make sense that the average man earns more than the average woman per year, but not necessarily per hour.
Looks like women will earn more than men before long if that trend continues.

where , in what place, what population? in all the world? what is your reference?

that is still not evidence of anything. it could be they apply for the same jobs as men and failing to be placed have to then apply for part time jobs. without data your argument does not stand



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So far it looks like a race to the bottom, no winners. If women earn more will be because their employment rate would be higher than men, not because they earn per hour/week/month.

Why do you think the stock market has risen so strongly? There is very much a winner as future employee costs look like falling, savings with office space & A.I.

Funny short-term trend since we live in a services economy. If the income of employees goes to low, who'll buy all the services and goods from stock listed companies. Stock owners can make a great consumption effort. But how much can rich people consume to compensate for the lost consumption of a contracting middle-class?

It greatly depends on what the companies you own sell. Avoid Consumer Discretionary would be the take away here, selling toothpaste or dog food is different to selling cars.