You've obviously never been to Männlichen

Edit: And of course, there's Männedorf.

Exactly. All male peasants were sent to villages whereas all exclusive female occupied green pastures.

No, because:

Our neighbour has really bad parking skills which she displayed on three different occasions (in a year) so I would (reluctantly I should add) agree with you on this one... We'll see how high our insurance will be next year..

As for separated metro cars, I admit I was stricken with the same type of envy when I was crammed at second class and had a glimpse into the relaxed atmosphere of the first class. lol We're all humans.
I can't comment on Mexico City, I have no idea why they decided to have separate metro cars. There must be a reason. Dunno.

This looks like a scene from a horror movie to me... But seriously now, I don't have these fears. I don't want to dismiss them, mind, I'm sure shit happens. I think public parking garages have surveillance cameras. Not that it would detract a predator, but I think these cases are still very, very rare.

I don't know if it's been mentioned already in the thread.
But there is an important difference between:

• Equality - treating everyone the same; and
• Equity - removing obstacles to provide equal opportunity

I think the world should strive for the second one.


P.S. You can see I'm fresh out of the company D&I training.

They renamed it to gender-neutral Wankdorf, a very friendly and sticky place

Whch one is your bike?

I am waiting for the 5th wave feminism to ask for genderless bikes.

They gave you copyrighted guidelines to determine the allowed level of diversity and sameness? How to identify what a healthy and an unhealthy obstacle is? How to remove it and from whom? All this is quite a matter of semantics with serious consequences. And extreme micromanagement.

Take it easy.
It's obvious that no solution will ever be perfect.
It's the goal and striving to improve things that matters.
Interpretations will of course differ widely.


If I am a recruiter and state "we don't shortlist this woman because she has a kid and wants another one" - it's quite obvious that needs to be dealt with, or?

You would be lucky if you ended up in Boningen SO (canton Solothurn) instead of Wankdorf BE

Despite not so much going on there, at least at the day lights ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boningen?wprov=sfti1

Well, if it comes from a man maybe the idea will get a better reception.

Easy commission, find someone who will not want to stay

In your world, maybe.

I always saw equities as securities to be traded. Equal gain, no need to be insecure about it

That's not feminism.

Lots of success in the UK doing just this: target the boys and the girls will also benefit. I would disagree about anxiety only affecting the girls though. Is both IME.


Anecdote. Not truth.
Yes exactly.

Statistically women are at greater risk. Safe spaces are necessary.


Lots of debate about this, particularly following the horrific kidnap and murder of Sarah Everard. Women/girls are more vulnerable. Fact.

To borrow a statement I saw: it's not that all men do, it's that all men can.

This is a fact that has to be understood and accepted. Women need women only (biological women) spaces.


Exactly.

Took my 6ft martial-arts loving OH quite a while to understand why I felt uncomfortable walking in certain places at certain times while he did not.

Unless you've experienced, from age 12, being honked at, whistled at, told to "smile, luv", had men get too close or handsy without permission on nights out, been followed down the street, comments about cleavage, bra size, been rubbed up against on public transport, walked home with your keys poking through your knuckles, had friends text you to say they got home safely, thinking twice about getting in a taxi alone, been upskirted...then it's likely you are male. And your lived experience is not the same as as that of women/ girls.

It's not paranoia. It's not being a victim. It's an ingrained understanding that we are more at risk than men.

Lots of advice to women about how to stay safe and avoid dangerous situations. What us actually needed is for the message to get out to those fellas who need to be told that their behaviour is unacceptable.

If this post has pissed you off, congratulations. You'll be an entirely decent man who would never dream of putting their hands on someone without their consent or indeed doing anything threatening. Educate your sons the same way.

Do you accept that women are not equal to men? You seem to present a very strong argument for the case.

In which sense are they not equal? Physical strength, confidence, what?

Perhaps RufusB will answer when she'll know what you mean, highly advisable.

You're not listening. And I'm doing no such thing.

I'm saying that societally, women are more vulnerable than men. That's why women only spaces are needed. Women are at greater risk of being assaulted and murdered.

It's not an equality issue. It's a society / culture issue.

Mr Rufus is much bigger and stronger than me. Fact. He's often one of the biggest in a room. Fact. He's aware of that and never uses his size to intimidate. Some fellas are aware and yet do purposefully intimidate. I've never humped a stranger's leg while on the tube even though, technically, I have the ability. That's the point.

And if you can't see that then you're either being deliberately obtuse or, have had a very privileged/sheltered life indeed.

Rufus was claiming women are not as strong as men, whilst a generalisation I don't think it's universally true.
It's not an acceptable for an employer to use this 'line of thought' against women, so a reasonable enough question.

Women's tennis v Mens tennis, prizes are higher for men but a women would never win the singles championship unless separated.
Is it fair to have a lower level competition just so a woman can win? having your cake & eating it if you ask me

Menustrate for 30 years, bear a few children and then come back to me about equality.

Assaulted, yes, but it's men who have a far greater risk of being murdered.

Tom