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Assaulted, yes, but it's men who have a far greater risk of being murdered.

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And who usually does the killing? Men
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Old 18.03.2021, 13:57
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Menustrate for 30 years, bear a few children and then come back to me about equality.
Indeed, only women can have children so men are not equal. You seem to agreeing that there are differences however they should be ignored or not depending what it is.

To recap, men are stronger, however you can not discriminate against a women applying for a job that requires strength or pay her less because she will be less efficient because of her lack of strength.
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Indeed, only women can have children so men are not equal. You seem to agreeing that there are differences however they should be ignored or not depending what it is.
I'm saying you should use common sense.
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Old 18.03.2021, 14:01
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And who usually does the killing? Men
And who do they usually kill? Men.

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Old 18.03.2021, 14:04
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And who do they usually kill? Men.

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According to these statistics, it's 50%/50% in Switzerland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homici...20than%20women
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Rufus was claiming women are not as strong as men, whilst a generalisation I don't think it's universally true.
It's not an acceptable for an employer to use this 'line of thought' against women, so a reasonable enough question.

Women's tennis v Mens tennis, prizes are higher for men but a women would never win the singles championship unless separated.
Is it fair to have a lower level competition just so a woman can win? having your cake & eating it if you ask me
I've heard this discussion before and the argument was that men work more (e.g. playing 5 sets vs. 3 sets on Grand Slam tournaments) and they also bring more money from advertisement simply because they're more popular among the public. Basic economics, apparently. But, it came from a man (tennis personality) I truly despise. There's a lot to discuss here, I'll let jacek address your issue.
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According to these statistics, it's 50%/50% in Switzerland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homici...20than%20women
So women are just as good at killing as men, that would imply they are not as fragile as claimed. Glad we sorted that out
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I'm saying you should use common sense.
Indeed, so we would be back to turning down women for certain jobs or paying them less. It's nothing to do with common sense, it's political correctness.
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Old 18.03.2021, 14:15
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I've heard this discussion before and the argument was that men work more (e.g. playing 5 sets vs. 3 sets on Grand Slam tournaments) and they also bring more money from advertisement simply because they're more popular among the public. Basic economics, apparently. But, it came from a man (tennis personality) I truly despise. There's a lot to discuss here, I'll let jacek address your issue.
Interestingly that Omega pay Cindy Crawford far more than they paid any of their male ambassadors. Perhaps she is better at negotiating?
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Old 18.03.2021, 14:21
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I've heard this discussion before and the argument was that men work more (e.g. playing 5 sets vs. 3 sets on Grand Slam tournaments) and they also bring more money from advertisement simply because they're more popular among the public. Basic economics, apparently. But, it came from a man (tennis personality) I truly despise. There's a lot to discuss here, I'll let jacek address your issue.
Lol! The reason that men play longer sets compared to women in GS is because they are physically designed and capable of enduring more than women in such a long lasting challenge. Historically gladiators on arena were male and sheer desire, as primitive as it may sound and it is, from audience to see more blood in any competitive sport is the main entertainment factor. Female are mentally stronger than male but physically much less. However, when it comes to game of doubles, there is no distinguish between competing genders and mixed doubles as a competition are treated equally all the same.

Given those factors one can assume that both female and male are equally work-loaded partaking in particular sport competition discipline, all according to their mental and physical capabilities.
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According to these statistics, it's 50%/50% in Switzerland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homici...20than%20women
So Switzerland has perfect equality in that sector, when in most other countries it's 3:1 or more!

So much for non-equal rights in Switzerland!

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Old 18.03.2021, 14:52
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There are women on both side of the net so playing field is level. Women's tennis should be 5 set long too, equal prize money, problem solved.
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Took my 6ft martial-arts loving OH quite a while to understand why I felt uncomfortable walking in certain places at certain times while he did not.
Why did it take him so long? It should be obvious for any gentleman Time to put notice in for an upgrade
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Old 18.03.2021, 15:02
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There are women on both side of the net so playing field is level. Women's tennis should be 5 set long too, equal prize money, problem solved.
Then men would have to foot the bill for dual medical emergency due to exhaustion.
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Old 18.03.2021, 15:11
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Re: Equal rights for women

I am for equal rights for all humans.

On the subject of rape/violence towards women, do you think banners saying "All men are responsible, and they should own it" are fair?

I have never raped anyone or shown any violence towards any woman in my life. Why should someone like me feel responsible for the actions of other violent humans (men or women)?
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Old 18.03.2021, 15:16
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Then men would have to foot the bill for dual medical emergency due to exhaustion.

Longer breaks with IV infusion? I think women can easily play 5 sets! It is not like they are playing against a man.
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Longer breaks with IV infusion? I think women can easily play 5 sets! It is not like they are playing against a man.
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Old 18.03.2021, 15:27
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Lol! The reason that men play longer sets compared to women in GS is because they are physically designed and capable of enduring more than women in such a long lasting challenge. Historically gladiators on arena were male and sheer desire, as primitive as it may sound and it is, from audience to see more blood in any competitive sport is the main entertainment factor. Female are mentally stronger than male but physically much less. However, when it comes to game of doubles, there is no distinguish between competing genders and mixed doubles as a competition are treated equally all the same.

Given those factors one can assume that both female and male are equally work-loaded partaking in particular sport competition discipline, all according to their mental and physical capabilities.
Haha, interesting explanation and comparison. Didn't think of it before. Comparing it with fencing sounds better IMO...

But yeah, I agree about the workload. It takes the same amount of training and effort to get there too. You know they'll say whatever as long as they can justify their opinion and consequently giving a smaller prize to female players. It is a very interesting discussion probably for other sports too. Public fora being what they are I'm not going to start any, will leave it at that. Thanks.
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According to these statistics, it's 50%/50% in Switzerland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homici...20than%20women
That's because there is a legal distinction between homicides shown in that wiki link and other violent acts that result in death, e.g. manslaughter or "deliberate killings". If you include those deaths, men are two times more likely to get killed than women.

Similar with assaults causing minor or serious bodily injury, 2 to 3 times more likely if you are a man.

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Statistically women are at greater risk. Safe spaces are necessary.
According to what statistics? Public violence against men is higher, that is obvious from crime statistics but also from insurance statistics. It's just that nobody seems to care about male victims.

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Lots of success in the UK doing just this: target the boys and the girls will also benefit. I would disagree about anxiety only affecting the girls though. Is both IME.
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Of course anxiety is affecting both genders, albeit perhaps in different proportions and degrees, everyone who has ever worked with children should know that. Some cliches here..
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That's because there is a legal distinction between homicides shown in that wiki link and other violent acts that result in death, e.g. manslaughter or "deliberate killings". If you include those deaths, men are two times more likely to get killed than women.

Similar with assaults causing minor or serious bodily injury, 2 to 3 times more likely if you are a man.



According to what statistics? Public violence against men is higher, that is obvious from crime statistics but also from insurance statistics. It's just that nobody seems to care about male victims.
But, but, Princess needs her (parking) space!
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