I’m leaning no on the terrorism law. Not because of a slippery slope, that is always just a straw man, but because I believe police action should be based on more than just suspicion. I’d like to see more checks and balances on police action.

and I agree with you - however it's hard to follow standard "process" when guys seating in CH are head of network selling illegal content stuff over servers in .to location and you won't have any evidence .

I do not like that - however whenever I look at myself - I do nothing that I be afraid of being looked at by the police - so on that end I do not feel it would impact me - on the other hand it be easy to procure that I am involved by any (state?) hacker group that want to plant the evidence .

it's hard call - we had that vote in SO just couple months ago - and (myself being at the end against) it passed with high

Curently using up some leftover risotto to make arancine for lunch.

Will add some meat from the boiled veal to the remaining kidneys to make a steak and kidney pie for dinner.

Tom

I add some rice and a piece of meat to that and voila, balanced meal with minimal effort. Leftovers are also used for a soup or a chicken broth etc.

Have to say that this pandemic has made us look at our ways re. consumption patterns and we weren't pleased with the findings.
Have managed to reduce food waste to close to 0. And other....waste. I'm able to evaluate real needs now vs. "phantasy" needs. I'd like....I think it would be nice if....was replaced by "Do I really need that?" "Am I going to use/need it in a few months from now?" etc etc.

and that is an issue - it's very reason I still drive 12-years old car and I wish to have new shiny toy .. but do I really need it ?

it was better when I haven't asked myself that question

Just for my understanding: what is the meaning of yes and no in this?

E.g. the Covid19-gesetz is made as an oppodition to a law that is already in effect. When people say they vote yes for it in the referendum does this mean they support the law or oppose it?

I mean is the referendum about abolishing the law yes/no or rather supporting the law yes/no?

Aren't new cars more ecological, considering the exhaust fumes and air quality?

Abstimmungsfrage:
Wollen Sie das Bundesgesetz vom 25. September 2020 über die gesetzlichen Grundlagen für Verordnungen des Bundesrates zur Bewältigung der Covid-19-Epidemie (Covid-19-Gesetz) annehmen?

I misread that as "I add some rice and a piece of meat to that and Vodka".

We also have reduced our food waste to practically zero, we very rarely buy non-food stuff anyway.

Thanks, at least that is non-ambiguous

Still the formulation seems strange: hasn't it been 'defacto 'angenommen' since sept-2020? (its definitely been in effect and a no vote will not roll back all the consequences, but simply stop any further consequences a few months from now).

Haha, maybe because you like Vodka? I think we buy a bottle per year for cocktails, but nah, not our thing. Not even in cocktails. Considering that having long dinners with friends is a thing of the past now, and it has been for the last year or so, we don't buy that odd bottle anymore.
We're more the wine and dine types to be fair.

Agree it is a bit weird. But important in my view to legitimize and continue the economic support packages. Funnily enough, all the public health measures are already dealt with by the Epidemiengesetz. So if some people think the should votr no because they don't like masks, they are fooling themselves.

"wine and dine" sounds good.

On food saving, I throw all sorts of leftovers & not used into an omelette or on a pizza.

Back to topic, voted by post today - No, No, Yes, No, Yes.

..carry on MusickChick ... you may be ou'to something ... and would let me justify new toy. ...?

Are you sure the epidimiengesetz can be applied to this long lasting condition without the backing of the covid19-gesetz? By now this surely isn't an emergency anymore?

As you can tell I have the opposite opinion of you (I think all Covid measures should be stopped ASAP) but my opinion is not relevant as I don't have a vote and it seems you'll get your wish anyway looking at the polls. Regardless of the outcome I think it's great that the people have a vote on it. Only country in the world as far as I'm aware.

I love the referendum system in Switzerland

Lex retro non agit .

You can't change the past (but you may question whenever in fact it was legal to do what was done without any legislative support for it - I am sure they found something to support the actions that were taken one way of the other ).

Vote is mainly around continue support going forward

What I am missing still is some counter measure to it - but likley on first occasion we see that right being abused - we be voting again

1- Popular initiative “For clean drinking water and healthy food"
Perhaps the greenies aren't aware, but we've got clean drinking water and healthy food. They're trying to take Switzerland back to the 1930s.

2- Popular initiative “For a Switzerland without artificial pesticides”
Excrutiatingly dumb. If you get rid of artificial pesticides, more land is needed for farming. Which negatively impacts the environment.

3- COVID-19 Act
seems fair

4- CO2 Act
nope

5- Federal Act on Police Measures to Combat Terrorism
This one I had to think about really carefully, but came down on the no side. I understand that yes side, but on balance I think it is necessary to preserve our freedoms.


I think 1,2 will fail. 3 and 4 will go through. 5... don't know.

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Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

Seems a little harsh on vegetarians, but needs must.

A flaw in the forum software, requiring that you have to vote in favour of one thing?

In which case, the current figures are:

1. 14 43.75% - against
2. 14 43.75% - against
3. 17 53.13% - for
4. 13 40.63% - against
5. 11 34.38% - against

Yes - means you support supporting others during COVID (or similar in future)
No - means Goverment would wonder how to do without our support of the vote regardless