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Popular initiative “For clean drinking water and healthy food" 19 45.24%
Popular initiative “For a Switzerland without artificial pesticides” 18 42.86%
COVID-19 Act 21 50.00%
CO2 Act 16 38.10%
Federal Act on Police Measures to Combat Terrorism 13 30.95%
None of the above 11 26.19%
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Old 18.05.2021, 21:54
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we can collect data regarding substances: biodegradability, the dose that makes it toxic, whether it accumulates, how much has to get used for it to be effective.

Any decision to ban or limit the use of certain substances should be based on these. Not quackery.

Besides, plants, various monocellular organisms and animals synthetize chemicals all the time, including against pests, so the initiative is banning everything, in a strict interpretation. I can hardly believe someone who knows the first thing about scientific thought would want to put a confused text like this one in the constitution.

The government already regulates and measures increasingly more substances in the water sources. I can understand wanting a more prudential approach, but this is extreme, as the farmers say.
and you touching very swiss way of thinking.
- once the vote is done and is Ya'
there be 24-months consultations and how to implement what was voted

next we may have preemptive vote to change the outcome of the last vote - however since that is not possible - we will find another way of doing it like we done it the past.

Last - we live list of what the "pesticides are" wide open and remove items we really need from it (so could be still used).

That be each time going over nightmare administrative paths and discourage anyone .

We achieve ultimate goal where nobody is happy - and we all be happy of that outcome .

I do remember that discussion from decade ago where only alternative was GMO - which actually promotes pesticides - and would fall out of favour once voted Ya.

Ultimately all food would get more expensive for "that reason" ...
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Old 18.05.2021, 21:56
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Can the Swiss citizens here please start an initiative that all EF members shall be granted the right to vote irrespective of passport? Thank you
No.

You're welcome.

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:02
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Can the Swiss citizens here please start an initiative that all EF members shall be granted the right to vote irrespective of passport? Thank you
you can follow one that is already voted - apply for swiss citizenship and you be granted any right to vote.
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:07
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Can foreigners vote in US elections without Russian collusion?

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:09
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No.

You're welcome.

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actually yes they could. But 43 votes would not be enough.

or you could move to a Kanton that lets certain foreigners to vote on certain things. Or hoover1-it.
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with the right malware installed, yes.
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One bot, one vote
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:13
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actually yes they could. But 43 votes would not be enough.

or you could move to a Kanton that lets certain foreigners to vote on certain things. Or hoover1-it.
I am in Schwyz. I am happy with taxation without representation.
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:15
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I am Schwyz.
Of course you are. Been there, paid little tax

Mind you, you can pay little tax in civilisation too
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Of course you are. Been there, paid little tax

Mind you, you can pay little tax in civilisation too
So, which was better, TI, SZ, or other?

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:21
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So, which was better, TI, SZ, or other?

Tom
a little insider knowledge goes a long way.

Best house: SZ
Best tax rate: SZ/ZH tied
Best weather: TI
Best bar: TI - albeit the need to ride
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:23
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Best bar: TI - albeit the need to ride
Which bar?

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:23
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a little insider knowledge goes a long way.

Best house: SZ
Best tax rate: SZ/ZH tied
Best weather: TI
Best bar: TI - albeit the need to ride
Best something: ZH
factoring foreigners density/km2 as "positive" or "negative" in your calculation? Same for "retired" ?
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:24
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Which bar?

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Cash Tom! Cash !
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some Gotthard band thing that was not quite Gotthard band thing.

with some beardy Swiss guy.....
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:40
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I am in Schwyz. I am happy with taxation without representation.
That's the spirit ... I can vote for two of us and decide how we use your taxes and when we raise them even ...
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Old 18.05.2021, 22:42
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some Gotthard band thing that was not quite Gotthard band thing.

with some beardy Swiss guy.....
Alas, they closed and sold out after your last visit.

Cooincidence? I think NOT!

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:46
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That's the spirit ... I can vote for two of us and decide how we use your taxes and when we raise them even ...
I do that every vote, actually.

Since they gave women the vote, I get 2x the votes, what's not to LOVE!

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Old 18.05.2021, 22:48
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I do that every vote, actually.

Since they gave women the vote, I get 2x the votes, what's not to LOVE!

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You actually got one vote for being Swiss and second for being Woman ?
Not fair
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That's the spirit ... I can vote for two of us and decide how we use your taxes and when we raise them even ...
No you can't. You vote in Solothurn.
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