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I refuse to buy Swiss chocolate as I'm pretty sure that the cocoa beans don't come from here.

Around 10 years ago Zoo Zürich sold chocolate made from cocoa beans grown in the Masoala hall, not sure if they still do it. Be aware they only made a couple of hundred bars, so prices might be slightly higher than usual.
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Yea! My Migros honey jar says made in Europe, America and or Asia. Now that's sticky!

Haha! At least LeShop says where honey comes from, e.g. "Herkunft: Europa Abgepackt in der Schweiz". A pity they don't do the same for manufactured goods.


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I'm pretty sure you can't avoid buying Chinese products. For instance.

Can always try to find alternatives. Might not always succeed. E.g. most FP2 masks are made in China but there are also European manufacturers. See https://shop.aerzteverlag.de/hygiene...ade-in-eu.html (made in the Czech Republic, competitively priced) or https://www.brack.ch/lohmann-rausche...stueck-1193215 (made in Switzerland, rather more expensive). Most inflatable canoes are made in China but Gumotex is made in the Czech Republic. Those are just the first two products that came to mind. I happened to be in luck that there were sites that provided the country of manufacture; that is not always the case.
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More on masks: Swiss made at 50 rappen/mask: https://fairmask.ch/en/collections/h...nzeln-verpackt
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So which chocolate do you buy? Belgian made with Belgian beans- or British made with British beans. It is clear they are not ... just like Yorkshire Tea is not grown in ...
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But it doesn't mean exactly that. There is no guarantee
that a Swiss product is made by higher standards,
and production of many farming products in less favorable conditions demands higher "intervention" from the farmers side. I also like to buy vegetables from neighboring farmers, but this is just a small amount of needed products.
Unless those Swiss standards are higher than those in other countries - I believe this is the case in certain aspects of animal husbandry.
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I would rather avoid buying anything made in a republican state in the US but for the most part I don't get that choice either.
Not very many monarchist states in the US though are there?
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Not very many monarchist states in the US though are there?
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Old 02.06.2021, 10:30
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Around 10 years ago Zoo Zürich sold chocolate made from cocoa beans grown in the Masoala hall, not sure if they still do it. Be aware they only made a couple of hundred bars, so prices might be slightly higher than usual.
I can't really imagine the Masoala hall producing sufficient beans to make 100 bars.
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Just because the label says made in etc., doesn't necessary mean that it's all made there. For example, Budnerfleisch is made in CH but the meat can come from anywhere. This became news during the Mad Cow days when famers of GR proved to the German Imperators that the meat actually came from Brazil. To be honest I don't trust butchers much anyway. Same with that Swiss watch you got for so many franks with parts from China. So basically, that Made in lable doesn't amount to much in these days of global madness.
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I can't really imagine the Masoala hall producing sufficient beans to make 100 bars.
Bars is stretching it. The second time they did it, they made 320 pieces of 1.4Kg in total so each piece, sold for CHF50 weighed 4.4g. That's roughly the size of half a piece of a 100g bar of chocolate.

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But the money went to a good cause.
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Not very many monarchist states in the US though are there?
Hawaii?
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Re: Country of origin

[QUOTE=Tom1234;3312526]I refuse to buy Swiss chocolate as I'm pretty sure that the cocoa beans don't come from here.

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indeed, not too many cacao plantations in the Tessin...

Though to be fair, the cacao is processed here and a good Swiss Chocolate will contain Swiss sugar and in the case of white and milk chocolates Swiss milk powder as well.

An interesting fact is that up to a few years ago there were more than 3200 chocolate shops in Belgium. At the time ( up to 2012 ) that was more than there were Tesco’s in the whole of the UK
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Can always try to find alternatives. Might not always succeed. E.g. most FP2 masks are made in China but there are also European manufacturers. See https://shop.aerzteverlag.de/hygiene...ade-in-eu.html (made in the Czech Republic, competitively priced) or https://www.brack.ch/lohmann-rausche...stueck-1193215 (made in Switzerland, rather more expensive). Most inflatable canoes are made in China but Gumotex is made in the Czech Republic. Those are just the first two products that came to mind. I happened to be in luck that there were sites that provided the country of manufacture; that is not always the case.
I had to bring it to you, but those labels are really just hot air. According to EU law is a product made where the biggest part of the value is created. So in the watch world does this mean that screwing together some pre-made pieces as the last step in Switzerland makes a watch "Swiss made". The vast majority of the work was done in China, but the small bit that made the watch "Swiss made" created the value. A German toy manufacturer brought this so far to import toys and the only step done in Germany was to add the brand lable... that turned a 1 USD chinese toy into a 20 EUR German made one...

If you go to any normal shop - online or not - will you have no chance to know where stuff is from. Some shops focus on products that are made to last "the old way"... thats probably your best choice, which will obviously come at a price. As an example: https://www.manufactum.de/ They are very specific about each part of a product. For example "Swiss cotton, contains animal parts as buttons made of horn, made in Poland"
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Because "made in" is a customs based definition and the EU is a single customs area.

Any manufacturer can put on the country of origin (as long as it's accurate) if they so choose and many do. But the customs territory is all that is actually required.

I would rather avoid buying anything made in a republican state in the US but for the most part I don't get that choice either.
But GOP states produce the best cowboy boots, hats, guns and ammo!
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Re: Country of origin

As said, it is not just about Switzerland. The customer should have the right to choose, with the necessary information.

Recently in the UK we have had the ridiculous über Nationalism- with supermarkets putting 'British' on packaging and the British flag...

Like British carrots... (and then in small in the corner- produced in Spain, etc).

Same with contents- be it horse, or Halal, or .... the customer has a right to know, and make informed choices.
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Four things I would never buy ...
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Four things I would never buy ...
You never buy a hat?
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As said, it is not just about Switzerland. The customer should have the right to choose, with the necessary information.

Recently in the UK we have had the ridiculous über Nationalism- with supermarkets putting 'British' on packaging and the British flag...

Like British carrots... (and then in small in the corner- produced in Spain, etc).

Same with contents- be it horse, or Halal, or .... the customer has a right to know, and make informed choices.
To be honest I've seen at least as much of that in Switzerland as in the UK.
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Swiss flag and Swiss - but produced in Spain or elsewhere?

Really? Examples? Cheap watches perhaps, where the movement is from elsewhere and is dropped into a Swiss brand case. Not the case for any watch brand worth its salt in our region, for sure. And we also have garanteed Labels which garantee Swiss production from end to end.
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Swiss flag and Swiss - but produced in Spain or elsewhere?

Really? Examples? Cheap watches perhaps, where the movement is from elsewhere and is dropped into a Swiss brand case. Not the case for any watch brand worth its salt in our region, for sure. And we also have garanteed Labels which garantee Swiss production from end to end.
Literally everywhere. I had a road bike with a Swiss flag on it which said "designed in Switzerland". Turn it upside down and there was a tiny lable "made in Taiwan".

Mr Federer's "ON" sport shoes make it very clear that their products consist of "Swiss engineering". That sounds better than "Made in Bangladesh" I guess...
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Designed does not mean 'made/produced' - and the info was there- if you looked carefully.
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