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Old 01.06.2021, 12:03
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Products almost always have "Made in <SOME COUNTRY>" printed on them, however the country of manufacture is rarely given for products in online shops such as Galaxus.


This always bothers me because we generally try to avoid buying from countries that suppress human rights. Are there any Swiss online shops that do list country of manufacture? I understand that there are all sorts of nuances with "Made In X" and "Country of Origin" and other such terms having different definitions. I'm not too bothered about fine-tuning this right now.


Ideal would be to require online shops to provide the same packaging information that is available offline, including country of manufacture. Not sure what Swiss political parties would think about that.
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Old 01.06.2021, 18:52
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Re: Country of origin

Just because the label says made in etc., doesn't necessary mean that it's all made there. For example, Budnerfleisch is made in CH but the meat can come from anywhere. This became news during the Mad Cow days when famers of GR proved to the German Imperators that the meat actually came from Brazil. To be honest I don't trust butchers much anyway. Same with that Swiss watch you got for so many franks with parts from China. So basically, that Made in lable doesn't amount to much in these days of global madness.
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Just because the label says made in etc., doesn't necessary mean that it's all made there. For example, Budnerfleisch is made in CH but the meat can come from anywhere. This became news during the Mad Cow days when famers of GR proved to the German Imperators that the meat actually came from Brazil. To be honest I don't trust butchers much anyway. Same with that Swiss watch you got for so many franks with parts from China. So basically, that Made in lable doesn't amount to much in these days of global madness.
It's a bit silly because for instance in the US, clothing made in the US but with material sourced from another country has to be labeled as Made in the US with imported material. Whereas Made in the US means the fabric also came from the states. No reason that we can't separate food by made in Switzerland vs. Processed in Switzerland.

My pepper-shaker tells me where all the various peppers come from. It's not that hard.
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Just because the label says made in etc., doesn't necessary mean that it's all made there. For example, Budnerfleisch is made in CH but the meat can come from anywhere. This became news during the Mad Cow days when famers of GR proved to the German Imperators that the meat actually came from Brazil. To be honest I don't trust butchers much anyway. Same with that Swiss watch you got for so many franks with parts from China. So basically, that Made in lable doesn't amount to much in these days of global madness.
Agreed- but this is the reason why the OP is saying we, the customer, should be able to make informed choice, and the country of origin, manufacture, finishing, should be CLEAR and officially checked.
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Old 01.06.2021, 20:00
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It's a bit silly because for instance in the US, clothing made in the US but with material sourced from another country has to be labeled as Made in the US with imported material. Whereas Made in the US means the fabric also came from the states. No reason that we can't separate food by made in Switzerland vs. Processed in Switzerland.

My pepper-shaker tells me where all the various peppers come from. It's not that hard.
Yea! My Migros honey jar says made in Europe, America and or Asia. Now that's sticky!
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Yea! My Migros honey jar says made in Europe, America and or Asia. Now that's sticky!
But now you can al least be sure the honey doesn't come from Antarctica.
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Yea! My Migros honey jar says made in Europe, America and or Asia. Now that's sticky!
but the point is, it does tell you. It doesn't say 'Swiss honey' - so hopefully you can make a choice. To pay a lot more perhaps, to have a local Swiss product, produced with certain standards re the bees and the crops.

I only buy honey from people I know and trust- local too. As we live in high meadows- we know that spraying, etc, is VERY low, and only manure and slurry from grass and hay fed cows is used as fertiliser (as milk goes for Gruyères production).

We should be allowed to make informed choices.
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Any informed choice when buying the stuff that Glaxus sells will be do I buy it or do I not buy it. Because only China produces those things.
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Re: Country of origin

I refuse to buy Swiss chocolate as I'm pretty sure that the cocoa beans don't come from here.

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Products almost always have "Made in <SOME COUNTRY>" printed on them, however the country of manufacture is rarely given for products in online shops such as Galaxus.


This always bothers me because we generally try to avoid buying from countries that suppress human rights. Are there any Swiss online shops that do list country of manufacture? I understand that there are all sorts of nuances with "Made In X" and "Country of Origin" and other such terms having different definitions. I'm not too bothered about fine-tuning this right now.


Ideal would be to require online shops to provide the same packaging information that is available offline, including country of manufacture. Not sure what Swiss political parties would think about that.
I'm pretty sure you can't avoid buying Chinese products. For instance.
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but the point is, it does tell you. It doesn't say 'Swiss honey' - so hopefully you can make a choice. To pay a lot more perhaps, to have a local Swiss product, produced with certain standards re the bees and the crops.
But it doesn't mean exactly that. There is no guarantee that a Swiss product is made by higher standards, and production of many farming products in less favorable conditions demands higher "intervention" from the farmers side. I also like to buy vegetables from neighboring farmers, but this is just a small amount of needed products.
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But it doesn't mean exactly that. There is no guarantee that a Swiss product is made by higher standards, and production of many farming products in less favorable conditions demands higher "intervention" from the farmers side. I also like to buy vegetables from neighboring farmers, but this is just a small amount of needed products.
I buy greens and eggs from the local Swiss farmer. Albeit, the workers are Portuguese
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but the point is, it does tell you. It doesn't say 'Swiss honey' - so hopefully you can make a choice. To pay a lot more perhaps, to have a local Swiss product, produced with certain standards re the bees and the crops.

I only buy honey from people I know and trust- local too. As we live in high meadows- we know that spraying, etc, is VERY low, and only manure and slurry from grass and hay fed cows is used as fertiliser (as milk goes for Gruyères production).

We should be allowed to make informed choices.
We prefer Italian honey.

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Agreed- but this is the reason why the OP is saying we, the customer, should be able to make informed choice, and the country of origin, manufacture, finishing, should be CLEAR and officially checked.
Blame the EU for this nonsense, not Switzerland.

The EU won't even tell you WHICH EU country it comes from!

But, that's the EU for you.

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Blame the EU for this nonsense, not Switzerland.

The EU won't even tell you WHICH EU country it comes from!

But, that's the EU for you.

Tom
And when it's written "Honey from South-America"....who is to blame?
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I refuse to buy Swiss chocolate as I'm pretty sure that the cocoa beans don't come from here.

So which chocolate do you buy? Belgian made with Belgian beans- or British made with British beans. It is clear they are not ... just like Yorkshire Tea is not grown in ...

I buy lots of foreign products, but I like to know where it comes from. If and when I choose to buy Swiss, I expect it to be ... well, Swiss- from beginning to end, and for it to be clear on the packaging. Simple, really, or it should be.

That goes for other countries too, of course. I buy local mozzarella, made by locally bred and grazed buffaloes- but it does not pretend to be Italian, and this is very clear- different name, and clear on label. Excellent too.

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So which chocolate do you buy? Belgian made with Belgian beans- or British made with British beans. It is clear they are not ... just like Yorkshire Tea is not grown in ...
And Tilsiter cheese is not made in Tilsit.

And there are no Cocoa beans grown on Cocoa Island.

And an Americano does not typically contain any American coffee beans.

And Panama hats don't come from Panama.

And despite his claims, JFK was not actually a dougnut.

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I buy lots of foreign products, but I like to know where it comes from. If and when I choose to buy Swiss, I expect it to be ... well, Swiss- from beginning to end, and for it to be clear on the packaging. Simple, really, or it should be.
Swiss chard.


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but yeah, otherwise I agree.
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And when it's written "Honey from South-America"....who is to blame?
Well, the Andean Community, who else?
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…if the label will be ,,Made in Kyrgyzstan''(chose just because not many know where it is and what represent) and all the ingredients are natural, sustainable and no forced labour involved: do you will buy?... or you looking for ,,authentic'' made in Swiss, Germany, etc...in Switzerland you can buy watches that only 15% are sourced locally, but they have label Made in Switzerland...I always buying from family farmers as much I can and try to consume what I can grow myself also...
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Blame the EU for this nonsense, not Switzerland.

The EU won't even tell you WHICH EU country it comes from!

But, that's the EU for you.

Tom
Because "made in" is a customs based definition and the EU is a single customs area.

Any manufacturer can put on the country of origin (as long as it's accurate) if they so choose and many do. But the customs territory is all that is actually required.

I would rather avoid buying anything made in a republican state in the US but for the most part I don't get that choice either.
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