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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

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This.

Biden has been cycling through Lausanne during some Iran talks towards the end of Barry's tenure,
John Kerry?

Who also fell off his bike and broke his leg in France in 2015.
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Old 15.06.2021, 22:09
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It's not "a day or two of inconvenience" though, this has been building for several days, and will not be over when they leave; it's going to take a couple of days at least to dismantle barricades, remove road blocks, and the several miles of barbed wire around the local parks and along the lake front.
The disruption so far is less than what I expected. I pass the Interconti, mont-blanc bridge, and parc des Eaux-Vives on my commute.

I find the roadworks crossing the bridge, and the closure of rue de montblanc until September, to be far more disruptive.

Seeing razor wire and cops on every street corner, irrationally irritates me. I suppose we want our guests to feel at home.
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Old 15.06.2021, 22:15
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Seeing razor wire and cops on every street corner, irrationally irritates me. I suppose we want our guests to feel at home.
Hey, Moscow is nice, you don't have to be that rude to Monsieur Poutine.
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John Kerry?

Who also fell off his bike and broke his leg in France in 2015.
Oops!
You're right, I mixed that up, the post has been amended.
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Old 15.06.2021, 22:29
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Hey, Moscow is nice, you don't have to be that rude to Monsieur Poutine.
Moscow? Nice? I think it sucks. Ratio of nice green areas vs concrete deserts not to my liking.
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Old 15.06.2021, 23:57
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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

This is how Biden reacts to a question during a press conference when he's caught off guard.
Note that this is only 15 minutes into the conference, he's as fresh as he can be.

There's no way sleepy Joe can counter someone like Putin, all Vlad needs to do is throw a couple curveballs.

(this is from the time Jo elects to show up)
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Old 16.06.2021, 07:28
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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

Poutain isn’t even here. Arrives just after Noon and heads straight for the meeting. I hope he takes a helicopter.
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Old 16.06.2021, 07:34
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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

From WRS:

Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to land at around 12.30 and then go directly to the Parc La Grange for the summit.
The meeting will be opened by the Swiss president Guy Parmelin at 1pm.

The first stage will be a face-to-face discussion with Biden and Putin together with the US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken and Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov.

The summit doesn’t just include the two leaders – it’s expected different groups from each side could break away to discuss specific issues.
There’s likely to be space for Biden and Putin to speak privately later in the afternoon.

There’s no strict timeline for the length of the meeting – but it is expected to last between 4 or 5 hours. Diplomatic analysts will be watching the time carefully – if the meeting is shorter than 4 hours, it could be a sign of failure.

The two leaders will each hold a separate press conference at the end of the summit.

Travel for ordinary citizens is expected to be especially difficult in Geneva this afternoon as both leaders will be leaving after the summit and heading back to the airport.
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Old 16.06.2021, 08:07
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Old 16.06.2021, 08:18
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It's not "a day or two of inconvenience" though, this has been building for several days,

The reward of living in a sh** hole like Geneva You should move to a classy place like Zurich
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Perhaps they could chose Ticino or Glarus next time.... they'd be perfect!
Putin has been here before, when his baby-mama opopped the sprog.

Nobody even noticed.

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Old 16.06.2021, 09:59
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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

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This.

Plus it's massive international multiday PR for free.....

Which POTUS other than Biden (now) and Trump (WEF Davos a couple years ago) have visited Switzerland while in power? Relatively speaking it's a massive plus for the federal council to have direct access to the POTUS, even if it's just a few minutes.
Exactly! According to the press, Parmelin and Cassis had facetime with Biden yesterday to discuss bilatéral issues. Not very often that could happen, win-win all around. It's good for international Geneva to be at the forefront of these events and probably good for the economy as well.

I also find it encouraging that there is a return to diplomacy during these times of increased world tensions and conflicts. Good to see US policy returning to reaching out and discussing in order to try to solve things before they escalate and trying to bring things to an understanding/agreement.
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Old 16.06.2021, 16:46
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The reward of living in a sh** hole like Geneva You should move to a classy place like Zurich
Thank you for your kind words.

Despite my status as a whinging pom, Geneva has welcomed me with a place to live, a good career, a son, citizenship for my daughters, a beautiful lake and so on.

Everyone has their heart somewhere, and Geneva is as far from a shit hole as one can get.
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Old 16.06.2021, 17:38
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Whoa, that's an agenda to nowhere. But maybe that's the point, assuming US opinion can swallow that dud.

Sanctions, NATO expansion, Afghanistan, climate? And is this saying Biden dare not talk about China?

And seriously, "Russian prisoners in US" versus "Americans jailed by Kremlin"? Way to go with the style guide, AFP
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I also find it encouraging that there is a return to diplomacy during these times of increased world tensions and conflicts. Good to see US policy returning to reaching out and discussing in order to try to solve things before they escalate and trying to bring things to an understanding/agreement.
I'm torn on that.

Of course diplomacy is generally preferable. But to say "a return" ignores aggression under Obama, e.g. the illegal and completely unwarranted war in Syria and "trivialities" like US meddling in Ukraine. The same applies of course to Barry's predecessors.

What comes out of the suggested corporate minimum tax is yet to be seen, too.
Delaware is a well-known tax haven not just within the US but for money from abroad as well, the very same state Biden has been representing in Washington for many decades. To this day the final beneficiary of funds in the state doesn't need to be published, which makes it an openly welcoming destination or pass-through for money laundering and other kinds of illicitly gained or even outright "black" money. Since the US don't participate in the automatic exchange of financial information ("Automatic Information Exchange") as an information provider/source, the other participating countries are unlikely to learn about those fortunes.

Countries have no friends, only temporary allies, and all too often only for a given issue.

"Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes."
("Whatever it is, I fear the Danaans, even if they bring gifts." Perhaps the motif is better known in English as "beware of Greeks bearing gifts")
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The reward of living in a sh** hole like Geneva You should move to a classy place like Zurich
Unnecessary, and needlessly rude.
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Unnecessary, and needlessly rude.
But true.
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Re: Biden Putin Summit Geveva 16 June

So they agreed to return ambassadors to their respective posts. Impressive.

I hope the stuff kept off the pressers and communiques is more juicy.
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And is this saying Biden dare not talk about China?
The USSR facilitated nuclear weapons technology to China to counter USA, then USA facilitated trade with China to counter USSR, then China used nuclear power to counter USSR and trade to counter USA.....so, our tri-polar world is fun.

I guess the diplomatic thing to do is to talk with China, not about China
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So they agreed to return ambassadors to their respective posts. Impressive.

I hope the stuff kept off the pressers and communiques is more juicy.

you want juicy?



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