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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

Goldman Sachs to pay $5bn for its role in the 2008 financial crisis

The settlement holds the bank accountable for its ‘serious misconduct’ in falsely assuring investors that securities it sold were backed by sound mortgages.
Goldman Sachs will pay $5.06bn for its role in the 2008 financial crisis, the US Department of Justice said today.

This was announced in January but now it is "official".

I suppose I am old and stupid but I just cannot get my head around these numbers

I mean that "settlement" is not far off a thousand francs per head for every man, woman and child in Switzerland.

Or you could buy a fleet of Boeing 787 Dreamliners!
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Goldman Sachs to pay $5bn for its role in the 2008 financial crisis

The settlement holds the bank accountable for its ‘serious misconduct’ in falsely assuring investors that securities it sold were backed by sound mortgages.
Goldman Sachs will pay $5.06bn for its role in the 2008 financial crisis, the US Department of Justice said today.

This was announced in January but now it is "official".

I suppose I am old and stupid but I just cannot get my head around these numbers

I mean that "settlement" is not far off a thousand francs per head for every man, woman and child in Switzerland.

Or you could buy a fleet of Boeing 787 Dreamliners!
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http://www.ag.ny.gov/press-release/a...lement-goldman

Having said that, 5billion is just a line item for a company the size of GoldenStacks.
Simply the cost of doing business, each fine is but a retrospective license.

It reminds me of the Freddie Fannie May days.

Is DoucheBank the next Lehmans?, or perhaps it will be Credit Suisse or UBS?
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Switzerland in deflation for 17th consecutive month.
I always thought that the common view is deflation is a disaster and to be avoided at all costs but we seem to chug along here with no obvious issues?

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Almost all deflation is imported to Switzerland. Europe is getting cheaper every day. I believe Swiss retailers do have noticed deflation as their sales have been decreasing for several years now..

That the effect is not bigger proves that protecting the Swiss market is of top priority to the government. There would not be any farmers left if markets were truly open for example (as in not subsidised nor in need of permits etc).
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Old 12.04.2016, 11:27
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Almost all deflation is imported to Switzerland. Europe is getting cheaper every day. I believe Swiss retailers do have noticed deflation as their sales have been decreasing for several years now..

That the effect is not bigger proves that protecting the Swiss market is of top priority to the government. There would not be any farmers left if markets were truly open for example (as in not subsidised nor in need of permits etc).
The basic issue with deflation is the theory that people stop buying non-essential goods because they will cheaper next week and then next week they will be even cheaper etc., etc.

Then the economy is destroyed because people have stopped buying.
This does not seem to be happening here.

So is the theory false or is Switzerland a special case?
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I do remember Price of 1 appartment in Basel in 2002 was somthin.... about 500 CHF. The same Appartment is now about 900 CHF.
Thats inflation
Inflation is a monetary phenomenon.

Commercial banks magic 98% of the money/debt/credit in existence out of thin air, then charge the 99% of us interest on this newly created money.

The more money/debt/credit that they magic out of nothing, the more fees and bonuses the commercial bankers pocket.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, the more money/debt/credit that the commercial bankers create, the more our homes/food/cars cost, and the more we must pay the commercial bankers in interest to exist.

That's inflation.
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The basic issue with deflation is the theory that people stop buying non-essential goods because they will cheaper next week and then next week they will be even cheaper etc., etc.

Then the economy is destroyed because people have stopped buying.
This does not seem to be happening here.

So is the theory false or is Switzerland a special case?
People (generally en masse) buying an iPhone 6 today, and not waiting for an iPhone 7 tomorrow seems to be an argument against the non-essential-deflation-delayed-gratification-theory.

But I don't think that the politicians/bankers really care about deflation in non-essentials. All the evidence suggests that they are focussed on keeping the essentials (homes/food/transport) inflating.

By definition, we don't need to buy non-essentials. But we are obliged to buy essentials. The politicians/bankers must keep money/debt/credit expanding to keep the merry go round spinning.

So they must keep the prices of essentials increasing - that way we don't have an option other than to continue to increase our debts, thus the money supply, thus what we currently understand to be the economy.
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The basic issue with deflation is the theory that people stop buying non-essential goods because they will cheaper next week and then next week they will be even cheaper etc., etc.

Then the economy is destroyed because people have stopped buying.
This does not seem to be happening here.

So is the theory false or is Switzerland a special case?
Both are true. Switzerland is a very special case and the theory on deflation being tested now seems to conclude that a small deflation is not hurting the economy as much as expected. Further in the current climate it may be that the governments have limited choices left and need to accept deflationary effects.

On the other hand you are understating the problems we have in Europe. We all have a car (or two), we have washing machines, TVs, etc. We do not need to buy this stuff as long as it will not break. It means demand is a lot lower than that in emerging countries as China and India. Imagine a whole country who wants to buy their first washing machine or first car. This is a real problem for our Western countries and halting consumption with a bigger effect than the effect of deflation.
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

I am not sure if it has been discussed (did not look back in the thread) but what I see (personal experience) is that there is a mix of deflation AND inflation in CH. The inflation is on the fixed cost / government /administration side of the equation (eg. health care insurance) while on the discretionary side of things there is deflation (eg. electronics and food - Aldi/Lidl).

So if anything, it seems to be that for the average person in CH (if such a thing), that there is pressure to "shop the prices" and put off purchases in order to cover the increases on the fixed cost side of the equation. Overall, I don't see people in CH rolling in discretionary cash due to the "supposed" deflation.

All of this of course tied to the downward pressure on salaries due to the job competition at the European/World level in certain sectors (eg. IT) and restructuring of certain sectors (eg. banking).
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

Swiss financial regulators have opened criminal proceedings against the country's BSI bank over links to corruption allegations against Malaysia's 1MDB fund.
BSI chief executive Stefano Coduri has resigned with immediate effect.
BSI is one of Switzerlands oldest banks founded in 1873

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Swiss financial regulators have opened criminal proceedings against the country's BSI bank over links to corruption allegations against Malaysia's 1MDB fund.
BSI chief executive Stefano Coduri has resigned with immediate effect.
BSI is one of Switzerlands oldest banks founded in 1873

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You have to admire the Swiss bankers.
No matter where in the world - if there's illegal money to be hidden or moved around, a Swiss banker will be on hand to help.
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

FBI arrests senior HSBC banker accused of rigging multibillion-dollar deal.

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Let's hope for the best.....looking for a high stock price
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

Apologies for posting news a couple of weeks old, but haven't seen the latest from the bankster/politician merry-go-round posted:

Quick recap:
Der Spiegel Greek Debt Crisis: How Goldman Sachs Helped Greece to Mask its True Debt
Independent: Greek debt crisis: Meet the Goldman Sachs banker who got rich getting Greece into the euro
Independent: What price the new democracy? Goldman Sachs conquers Europe
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The bank's traders created a number of financial deals that allowed Greece to raise money to cut its budget deficit immediately, in return for repayments over time. In one deal, Goldman channelled $1bn of funding to the Greek government in 2002 in a transaction called a cross-currency swap. On the other side of the deal, working in the National Bank of Greece, was Petros Christodoulou, who had begun his career at Goldman, and who has been promoted now to head the office managing government Greek debt. Lucas Papademos, now installed as Prime Minister in Greece's unity government, was a technocrat running the Central Bank of Greece at the time.
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The Guardian: José Manuel Barroso to become chairman of Goldman Sachs International
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Barroso, who was president of the European commission for 10 years until 2014, is becoming chairman of Goldman Sachs International – the bank’s UK and European operations – and will also be an adviser. His pay has not been disclosed.
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

Just came across an interesting video. Not directly related to the financial crisis, but of interest to both British & American people & anyone interested in economics/politics/globalistion/EU/Brexit [14 minutes]:

BTW, I came across the above on iTulip, the site that called the 2000 dotcom crash. The founder, Eric Janszen, has retreated behind the paywall section of iTulip and only comes out to promote things. In this thread: http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...o-help-VirZOOM - he very unusually comments on economics again:

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.............& your latest thoughts on Gold/Silver Inflation/Middle East ETC?
Greenspan is right. The next surprise is inflation.
From this Bloomberg Interview, Greenspan is predicting inflation(!) - in the US at least.

On Youtube: "Alan Greenspan on Brexit, U.S. Economy, and Inflation (Full Interview)" [36 minutes]:
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

These people remind me of Vis' Thieving Gypsy Bastards. But that's by the by (bye the bye hopefully one day).

The more common term for the bankster/politician merry-go-round is the 'revolving door'. Catching up on the Kaiser Report*, saw this (well worth watching IMO) report on the 'revolving door', which comprises an interview with an ex Goldman Sachs managing director [25 minutes; 1st half GS revolving doors (N.B. Washington/US focussed) - 2nd half examining (OT) Fracking in the UK]:



*[Source note: the Kaiser Report is from Russia Today, which is pretty much analogous to the BBC, WRT promoting the interests of the current leaders of the state which pays their salaries, bonuses & pensions. At least Kaiser gives one the impression that he is honestly stating what he really thinks]

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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

UK Independent 2 weeks ago: Dishonest bankers threaten new financial crisis says Bank of England Governor Mark Carney:
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Corrupt bankers represent a threat not only to those they directly rip off but also potentially the entire global financial system, the Governor of the Bank of England has warned.

In his capacity as chair of the Financial Stability Board (FSB) – a global forum for national regulators, financial ministries and central banks – Mr Carney has written an open letter to the G20, which meets in China this weekend.

“The incidence of financial sector misconduct has risen to a level that has the potential to create systemic risks by undermining trust in both financial institutions and markets,” he says.
The global economy has still not recovered from the bankers' RMBS orgy, and yet so few reforms have been made that they are apparently still dangerous to all. The answer must be bonus clawbacks - these people are motivated by their fees & bonuses. Our pension funds, as bank shareholders, continue to pay the fines. Are the banker-politician merry go round & the banking lobby too powerful for any meaningful reforms?
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Fascinating insight into the bankster mindset from BBC world service radio: Interview with Former UBS trader - Kweku Adoboli
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Dubbed the biggest rogue trader in British history, Kweku Adoboli ran up $2.3bn of losses for the Swiss bank UBS. He has spent four years in prison for fraud and now faces possible deportation from Britain back to Ghana. He maintains he was not motivated by greed but that the system put unbearable pressures on him to make big returns. He warns that the culture of the banking industry has not changed very much which means it could easily happen again.
From the interview, he appears to believe that he isn't really a criminal, because he was doing what lots of other people were doing
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From the UK Torygraph yesterday: British workers jealous and resentful of bonuses

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British workers are among the most jealous in the world, with one-third believing colleagues who receive bonuses do not deserve the additional payouts.

Just over one-third of finance professionals believe bonuses given to top earners are unjustified, according to a study by the Chartered Institute of Management Accountants (CIMA).

Only workers in the United Arab Emirates are more hostile to bonuses, out of the 14 countries examined in the report.

The study also found that 62pc of finance workers believe unjustified bonuses cause resentment in the office, souring the atmosphere at work.
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Bonuses are most disliked if they are perceived to boost short-term thinking among executives, and when critics believe the awards encourage workers to focus on one small area of their job rather than the overall picture.

“Perceptions of ‘unjustified’ bonuses, whether stemming from ineffective incentive designs or not, can trigger resentment and undermine employee engagement and motivation. This hurts performance, exacerbates myopia and corrodes culture,” said professor of accounting and financial management Wim A Van der Stede.

“Designing effective incentive systems is hard, yet incentives that may be fair may not look fair – a challenge that touches on the issue of transparency as well as the question of both how and how much to incentivise.”

CIMA suggests that bonuses should be more explicitly linked to long-term performance and the business’s ultimate goals, rather than short-term metrics such as revenue.
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Re: Financial Crisis Bank News [was: How Safe is UBS?]

A decade on from the banksters' RMBS orgy, we are still paying back their fees & bonuses in the form of inflated mortgages in the shape of extra decades of our lives at the grindstone, and debased currencies. That QE (free money gifted to the bankers to compensate for their failed business models - what happened to capitalism, and survival of the fittest?) comes DIRECTLY out of OUR pockets - someone has to pay back all the missing money.

Anyone remember the talk about splitting up of risk taking institutions from consumer deposit banks? The politician/bankster love in killed that:

How Goldman Plans to Turn Retail Deposits Into Wall Street-Style Profits

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For years, bank officials denied any intent to transform Goldman Sachs into the sort of bank that dealt with Main Street consumers. They argued Goldman’s bank would only cater to the wealthy individuals and corporations that had long been its client base.

But management’s thinking has evolved as regulators have pushed the industry to get back to the basics of banking, said the sources, who were not authorized to discuss strategy publicly. For Goldman, deposits also represent a more stable and stickier type of funding than other types of short-term debt it has relied on historically.
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A decade on from the banksters' RMBS orgy, we are still paying back their fees & bonuses in the form of inflated mortgages in the shape of extra decades of our lives at the grindstone, and debased currencies. That QE (free money gifted to the bankers to compensate for their failed business models - what happened to capitalism, and survival of the fittest?) comes DIRECTLY out of OUR pockets - someone has to pay back all the missing money.

Anyone remember the talk about splitting up of risk taking institutions from consumer deposit banks? The politician/bankster love in killed that:
Plus a circa $14 Billion fine for Deutsche Bank and maybe something similar for Credit Suisse!

Us ordinary people go to jail for stealing about 0.01% of such "bank failures"!
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