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pregmeier 10.01.2007 09:00

General election
 
Hi

I would like to know, where you stand politically.

To keep it simple lets just take the 4 parties that are in the Bundesrat.

From left to right:

SP - Socialist Party
CVP - Christian Democrats
FDP - Liberal Party
SVP - Conservative Party


Personally I stand between FDP and SVP. The SVP sometimes looses its manners, but also is right in some issues. However sometimes they are too extreme, for example with the contract negotiations with the EU.

gbn 10.01.2007 09:09

Re: General election
 
1. I can't vote.
2. Isn't Switzerland run by middle-of-the-road committees anyway?

BaselLife 11.01.2007 01:21

Re: General election
 
I am not sure that I equate the SVP with the conservative party. There are certainly elements of the conservative party that share the nationalistic right wing attitudes of the SVP. However, the SVP is really a is party of people who like to say "no" and often make racists or religiously insensitive comments. You just have to watch programmes like Arena on Swiss tv or see their posters during the various referendums to see the true colours of the SVP. The Berne fraction of the SVP seem to have traditionally been more balanced than the Zurich fraction that is known for it's right attitudes. Look at the wonderful Mr Blocher and how he has abused his postion as Justice minister to make party political comments and actions.

Remember it is the SVP who would like to repeal the anti racism laws andare the only party against protecting workers against passive smoking.

It will be very sad if the SVP increase their vote in the election.

What do other people think

Martin

spmull06 11.01.2007 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pregmeier
SP - Socialist Party
CVP - Christian Democrats
FDP - Liberal Party
SVP - Conservative Party

For about 335 million English speakers "liberal" means center-left (US and Canada). I know that "Liberal" is often their name in German (Freisinnig); however, Swissinfo usually translates it into the "Radicals" from French. I would actually characterize the SP as Social Democrats (Left); CVP Christian Democrats (Center); FDP - Liberal / Radical Party (Center-Right); SVP Swiss People's Party (Nationalist-Right).

If I could vote I'd go with the FDP. That being the case, my wife isn't entirely in favor of me getting the red pass in the future :msnsarcastic:. She is a strong SP supporter and was involved in Juso. Luckily I've made her more skeptical of the party line and she's been voting more conservatively in the latest referendums. Believe it or not I'd be a Democrat in the US... However, I do not find any party ideal. The closest would actually be the CVP, but I cannot support a socially conservative party.

pregmeier 12.01.2007 08:18

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I don't like the SP.

For example it feels like you need to be ashamed if you earn a bit more then average.
Also they want out country to be too open. How can they fight for the “small man”, but on the other hand open the labour market for everyone?

In my eyes there are a party for a lets see “intellectual elite”, many people that used to vote SP are now voting SVP.

Also interesting that many foreigners (also from the Balcan) vote SVP because they like the conservative values.

Lets see: I would say in the next election the SVP can get one or two percent more. FDP will me more or less the same. CVP might loose some. On the left there will be a fight between SP and Green party.



BaselLife 12.01.2007 22:42

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For me, the abuse of Blocher's position as Justice minister is enough for me to realise that the SVP is party of "no" sayers who should be in permanent oposition. They really are a set of racist luddites. As I said just watch the Arena programme on Swiss tv to see what I mean or have look at their campaigns in referendums to see the mentality of these people. Really there negative attitude to the idea of trying to cut the appalling level of smoking in Switzerland and the idea of being able to eat in restaurant without having to endure smoking does not encourage me that thay have a clue.

Of the other parties I have less of an opinion though in Basel the SVP are the equivalent of the "Monster Raving looney" party and have very little representation

Martin

mark 26.02.2007 13:47

Re: General election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pregmeier
Also interesting that many foreigners (also from the Balcan) vote SVP because they like the conservative values.

Interesting - personally I am amazed that any foreigner who receives the absolutely blatantly racist and xenophobic crap from the SVP in their letterbox (like I do) would ever vote for them. To me that just defies belief.

But then something occured to me - almost all of us on this forum, many of us long term residents, are denied the right to vote (as gbn pointed out). Possibly why this poll didn't get many responses. On the flip side, you refer to foreigners voting for the SVP - how could this be possible (except at the community level in some of the cantons on the French side)?

So these foreigners you refer to are actually Swiss (whether they were born Swiss or not is not relevant, they are still Swiss)?

I'm personally a little surprised that the SVP in this informal poll have almost as many votes as the other parties. It would have been more interesting if this were a public poll so we could see WHO voted for them. Perhaps it is possible that those of us on this forum who aren't Swiss would support the SVP, but I do find it a bit surprising.

Andres 28.02.2007 22:02

Re: General election
 
who voted SVP ?

Guest 04.03.2007 11:08

Re: General election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres
who voted SVP ?

Me

(Bloody hell, my reply must be atleast 10 characters long)

spmull06 04.03.2007 14:32

Re: General election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMonkey
Me

(Bloody hell, my reply must be atleast 10 characters long)

I do not mean to challenge your political beliefs, but would you mind explaining why you support the SVP? I am rather curious. I find it difficult to picture someone who is not Swiss supporting them.

jamaicanRUM 04.03.2007 15:15

Re: General election
 
I hate getting SVP leaflets! Personally I find the parties either too PC or too right wing. I would vote for a dictator going by the name JR :-)

Guest 04.03.2007 15:30

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Their campaign against Asylum Seekers.

It's a loop hole that has been abused countless of times.

Somehow, I was asked to sign in again and all the stuff that I have typed went down the drain. :msnmad:

spmull06 04.03.2007 15:30

Re: General election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaicanRUM
I hate getting SVP leaflets! Personally I find the parties either too PC or too right wing. I would vote for a dictator going by the name JR :-)

Agreed... sort of... I'd vote FDP, but FDP Aargau is almost as xenophobic as the SVP.


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