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Old 02.12.2008, 21:27
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Instead of controversial I should've written main issue of the No comitee. However when Switzerland and a few other countries began experiments with heroin prescription ten years ago, they were harshly criticised by the World Health Organisation. I hope the institution has changed its opinion on the subject in the meantime. Personally I agree with Oldhand, to me it's part of a practical solution for a horrible situation.
Agreed...the WHO has been quite critical of Switzerland for their actions on this program, but it is hard to argue with results...perhaps that is why Australia, Canada, UK, Holland, and others have implemented test programs based on the Swiss system. Germany did as well, but the voters refused to approve and extend the program, so it shut down...
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The article makes it quite clear that prescription heroin is very much the last resort. It's quite reasonable to believe that people who have made it so far cannot be "cured", at which point their addiction is nothing more than a chronic condition that must be treated to minimise its impact (which is what the program attempts to do).

Not every illness (especially mental ones like addiction) can be "cured", at least not with our current levels of medical knowledge. The question then, becomes, do we treat the symptoms so the sufferers can attempt to lead a mostly normal life, or do we cast them out of society with the feeble justification of "drugs are bad, mmmkay" ?
Very well stated...and exactly correct...
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Re: Swiss vote on radical heroin rules

Finally something progressive from the swiss goverment. Most drug policy is utter bunk and is about as usefull as "War on poverty" and "War on terrorism" and actually creates more problems that before.
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Old 08.12.2008, 19:33
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Finally something progressive from the swiss goverment. Most drug policy is utter bunk and is about as usefull as "War on poverty" and "War on terrorism" and actually creates more problems that before.
for over 700 yaers noting progressive came out of switzerland wow
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for over 700 yaers noting progressive came out of switzerland wow
When Mankind has reached the Moon. Swiss women still couldn't vote.
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True, but like I said, I've heard that going "cold turkey" works (or maybe I should rephrase and say that it can work)

and you havent lived here around 1995-1998



letten



platzspitz/park around landesmuseum

the only solution to dry out the black market was to bring up the heroin program.
on SF this summer they showed a report about 10years of closing letten (1998) and all people interviewed,
junkies as social workers, praised the heroin program!
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Re: Swiss vote on radical heroin rules

There will ALWAYS be drugs and junkies. Even Iran which lops off the heads of dealers AND users has like a million heroin addicts. So unless you guys want to live in a country run by Taliban with "1984" surveillance tech... it'a a loosing battle. Better to tax and regulate.

I mean just think, would all those nasty Colombian drug lords want drugs to be legal? Of course not. Now ask yourself why you (rethorical) are of the same opinion as them.
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Re: Swiss vote on radical heroin rules

thats not the question as you can read 2-4times a week that cops did a house raid n found several kg's of smack/drugs. but i would like to see all you expats back in 95... "on your knees" you would pray to clean your area off scum, to stop the burglary, the crime, the shoplifting, the prostitution, the shooting, the living disease!
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