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Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

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Switzerland's justice minister said today that her country could ban full-body Muslim veils in the future, as neighbouring France is currently debating.

Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said seeing a woman in a burqa makes her uncomfortable, even though the head-to-toe outfits are rarely worn in Switzerland.

"If the number of women wearing a burqa increases, we could study a possible ban," said Widmer-Schlumpf, 53, at a news conference to which she wore a short skirt and black leather boots.

But she said the veils weren't currently on the government's agenda.


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Switzerland's justice minister said today that her country could ban full-body Muslim veils in the future, as neighbouring France is currently debating.

Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said seeing a woman in a burqa makes her uncomfortable, even though the head-to-toe outfits are rarely worn in Switzerland.

"If the number of women wearing a burqa increases, we could study a possible ban," said Widmer-Schlumpf, 53, at a news conference to which she wore a short skirt and black leather boots.

But she said the veils weren't currently on the government's agenda.
Switzerland could ban something that most people dont wear at some point in the future theoretically in other words.

Did she say anything on the legality of time travel within switzerland should be it invented one day ?
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Old 11.11.2009, 09:59
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Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said seeing a woman in a burqa makes her uncomfortable, even though the head-to-toe outfits are rarely worn in Switzerland.
Seeing a woman with a dyed plum-coloured buzz-cut and leather trousers makes me uncomfortable but I wouldn't contemplate lobbying parliament to get them banned.

What is wrong with these people? Whatever happened to live and let live?
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

For a while I thought you meant banning burgers (burgas).
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For a while I thought you meant banning burgers (burgas).
If they ban burgers Im leaving.
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

I'm good with it as long as they ban Uggs as well.

Degrading to women.
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

They would be in good company since its already been banned in Egypt for being UnIslamic.
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I'm good with it as long as they ban Uggs as well.

Degrading to women.
and comb-overs for men. and I should know - im bald.
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

I'm all for it. Here are other things they should ban because they are degrading to women:

men
jeans
skirts
magazines
Hugh Hefner
Blick
other women
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

why not banning "Apostolnik" weared by nuns

"Switzerland could ban something that most people dont wear at some point in the future theoretically in other words"

the numbers could increase and most of people dont wear it



P.S: i am not against nuns wearing apostolnik or any traditional dress ...
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

Did anyone ever propsed to ban Pornography as being degrading to women? Or maybe its not.

Realistically speaking, as long as theirs enough oil money in Swiss banks, they wont be banning Burqa's, another ploy at stirring up controversy, it seems like.

Coming to CH, I thought I would get away from all such religious debates, it being a neutral country, but so far my understanding is, I was wrong.
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Switzerland's justice minister said today that her country could ban full-body Muslim veils in the future, as neighbouring France is currently debating.

Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said seeing a woman in a burqa makes her uncomfortable, even though the head-to-toe outfits are rarely worn in Switzerland.

"If the number of women wearing a burqa increases, we could study a possible ban," said Widmer-Schlumpf, 53, at a news conference to which she wore a short skirt and black leather boots.

But she said the veils weren't currently on the government's agenda.
I guess Burkas were ok when all of the Arab money was coming here, but now that the Swiss are now dealing with the Russians and the Chinese, their right wing conservative attitude really starts to show through.

It almost remains me of the post made here where Switzerland has been welcoming to Jews and perhaps more specifically their money, apart from during the second world war where their interests laid elsewhere.

The Burka is not offensive in any shape or form but what is offensive is how religious extremists exploit its use. The state of any country should not have the right to tell us what and what we can't wear and the banding of head scarves and burkqas is a sure fire way to encourage extremism and does nothing pacify and to create a peaceful co-existence...

So there.....
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The state of any country should not have the right to tell us what and what we can't wear and the banding of head scarves and burkqas is a sure fire way to encourage extremism and does nothing pacify and to create a peaceful co-existence...

So there.....
It is however unpractical for job roles which require facial expression. You would agree that it would be alright for the state to force people not to wear it if their job role required reasonable use of facial expression ?
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Did anyone ever propsed to ban Pornography as being degrading to women?
Personally I think it is. You just have to look towards French cinema to see that a young actress has no chance of making it unless she strips off.
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It is however unpractical for job roles which require facial expression. You would agree that it would be alright for the state to force people not to wear it if their job role required reasonable use of facial expression ?
The real argument here is if the Applicant meets the Job Spec or Description.

Would you agree it would be alrite for the state to force people not to study Medicine if their job required reasonable use of Mathematics? (just an example).
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The real argument here is if the Applicant meets the Job Spec or Description.

Would you agree it would be alrite for the state to force people not to study Medicine if their job required reasonable use of Mathematics? (just an example).
Well entry into university is not a state decreed law so I would say the state would not say you needed mathematics to study medicine, but the interview procedure may well which would be the equivalent. Thereofore if you got turned down for every medicine job you applied for with the reason "does not have mathematics knowledge which is required for this job" then you couldn't really have any complaints. However if the state education department said mathematics was a requirement for entry into university to study medicine then I would say that wouldn't be wholly unreasonable, no.
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

Humm... And how would the discussion be if Islamic countries would ban all women (also western women) not wearing burqas?
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Personally I think it is. You just have to look towards French cinema to see that a young actress has no chance of making it unless she strips off.
Often much more than just "strip off". Remember one ex-model going public with her experiences about what it took her to get to be a model.

But it is not seen as "degrading" rather its how the "industry works" or doing "whatever it takes to fulfill your ambition"
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Re: Switzerland could ban burqas in future!

i think that the real issue that governments should debate is not whether or not it is ok to wear a burqa, it should be whether or not is is ok for to be forced to wear a burqa in public by the family / husband / Imam etc.

Burqas are not a symbol of Islam any more than Pakistany / Bangladeshy forced marriages are, and I believe that they are an expression of a particular culture more than a religion.
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The irony of banning what someone can wear because what they wear is oppressive is lost on me

So the evil muslim countires are not free because they allow people to wear burqas but the good western countries are free because they ban the wearing of burqas?

Granted, I would like to see someone walk down a city Saudia Arabia in a mini skirt and boob tube and survive, but aren't the 'superior' western countries suppose to be setting an example?
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