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Why would I live in such places? I have seen enough not to even visit those places again.
Such a shame.

I've lived in such areas, and found them not entirely unpleasant (their location in the grubbiest parts of town notwithstanding).

You don't know what you're missing.
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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

An entertaining analysis of what the United Kingdom would be like if the British had referenda like the Swiss: Give Power to the People and You'd Best Expect Lunacy.

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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

Well I was born in Belgium but my native country is Morocco, a town called Marrakesh.
They wouldn't ban minarets ofcourse because its a "Muslim" country.
But I don't think the locals would agree banning Churchtowers.

I'm a Muslim but my preferred drink is Jack Daniel's and I like to party.
The situation between Muslims and the world doesn't exist in my hometown you can be whoever you want worship what/whoever you like.
I actually really feel bad sometimes especially because of my name which is Mohammed, thanks mom and dad really original.
But I feel I always have to prove to people that I'm not an extremist and that I'm cool.
Well in my hometown there's a lot of of Americans and Europeans living there, we think their cool.
I just hope that the common people stop getting influenced by unreliable sources and start realizing that the war against terror is not a Christian war or Jewish war its a global war against the killing of innocent civillians in any form or way by any ethnic group.
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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

In India, It would fail if it was a referendum.
If it was a law, it will be deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court.
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Well I was born in Belgium but my native country is Morocco, a town called Marrakesh.
They wouldn't ban minarets ofcourse because its a "Muslim" country.
But I don't think the locals would agree banning Churchtowers.

I'm a Muslim but my preferred drink is Jack Daniel's and I like to party.
The situation between Muslims and the world doesn't exist in my hometown you can be whoever you want worship what/whoever you like.
I actually really feel bad sometimes especially because of my name which is Mohammed, thanks mom and dad really original.
But I feel I always have to prove to people that I'm not an extremist and that I'm cool.
Well in my hometown there's a lot of of Americans and Europeans living there, we think their cool.
I just hope that the common people stop getting influenced by unreliable sources and start realizing that the war against terror is not a Christian war or Jewish war its a global war against the killing of innocent civillians in any form or way by any ethnic group.
That was a really cool post !
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In India, It would fail if it was a referendum.
If it was a law, it will be deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court.
But this isn't India!
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Well I was born in Belgium but my native country is Morocco, a town called Marrakesh.
They wouldn't ban minarets ofcourse because its a "Muslim" country.
But I don't think the locals would agree banning Churchtowers.

I'm a Muslim but my preferred drink is Jack Daniel's and I like to party.
The situation between Muslims and the world doesn't exist in my hometown you can be whoever you want worship what/whoever you like.
I actually really feel bad sometimes especially because of my name which is Mohammed, thanks mom and dad really original.
But I feel I always have to prove to people that I'm not an extremist and that I'm cool.
Well in my hometown there's a lot of of Americans and Europeans living there, we think their cool.
I just hope that the common people stop getting influenced by unreliable sources and start realizing that the war against terror is not a Christian war or Jewish war its a global war against the killing of innocent civillians in any form or way by any ethnic group.
Thank you for sharing.
Since I moved to Switzerland I made one muslim friend. In my home country there simply aren't any muslims, so I've never had the change to get to know them until I moved to such a multi culter country as Switzerland is. Until now, I haven't known much about the people from own experience, just seen bad news in TV.
I am very positive against the Muslims now, as this new friend of mine has excellent (well, at least in my opinion, some seam to beg differ) sense of humor, fun to party with and is in general a nice guy.
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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

Thank you,
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In India, It would fail if it was a referendum.
If it was a law, it will be deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court.

in Utar Pradesh maybe not?
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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

Despite the sensational news value of the story, the Western media has been remarkably silent.
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-mufti-701/
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Despite the sensational news value of the story, the Western media has been remarkably silent.
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-mufti-701/
A little quid-pro-quo.
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Why would I live in such places? I have seen enough not to even visit those places again.
Well I did - I lived for nearly 35 years in one of the most multi-cultural towns in the UK, and I just loved it- so much so that I just have to go back every couple of months. Once I'd managed to persuade my Surrey relatives that coming to the Midlands was not going to kill them, they actually were so pleasantly surprised. And of course the surrounding countryside is stunning and so uncrowded and peaceful.

Stereotypes and bigotry come to mind. And they are not a prerogative of the Swiss - plenty of UK people are narrow-minded and racist bigots too.

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Despite the sensational news value of the story, the Western media has been remarkably silent.
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-mufti-701/
THIS was and is the position of the Hanbali-Wahhabite school of SunniIslam which is THE state religion in the Wahhabite Kingdom of Sa'ou'idi Arabiya
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and so is not really sensational at all
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Despite the sensational news value of the story, the Western media has been remarkably silent.
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-mufti-701/
What sensational news value? That Wahhabi clerics are radical? no shit Sherlock...
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What sensational news value? That Wahhabi clerics are radical? no shit Sherlock...
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I do NOT see anything sensational. Also Dr Watson would have supported my view
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Re: [Minaret Ban]What would have happened in your native country?

There is no comparison.

The Swiss peoples vote was to ban the future building of mosques with minaretts. Mosques can still be built in Switzerland. Minaretts are not specified in the Koran just as steeples and bells are not in the Bible.

This Mufti wants to destroy all churches. As usual we can expect silence on anything anti-Christian...
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I'm a Muslim but my preferred drink is Jack Daniel's and I like to party.
My wish is that my message will not be understood wrong, and will not be taken as offence.

I don't feel shy to say that I don't drink Alcoholic drinks because it is forbidden in Islam, this doesn't mean that I am against others whom are drinking whatever they like to drink.

It is just that I got from this quote that not drinking alcohol may show you as a strange or isolated person? or maybe I understood it wrong but I hope I can share my opinion.

At the begining I found it a bit difficult when going out in the evenings with my colleagues to have a drink, was a bit shy to say I don't drink alcohol and honestly more shy to explain why, and had some problems especially when I find no non-alcoholic drinks in the bar we go to and I end up with some water, but my colleagues always shows very kind attitude and now I really don't feel any problem when saying I don't drink alcohol because it is forbidden in Islam, people respect my belief and I respect their freedom in selecting whatever drink they prefer and life goes great that way.

Sorry, It was off the topic but I wanted to share my opinion about it.

before leaving here, I may say something near to the topic itself, I don't miss minaretes but I miss the atmosphere of real big mosque where people are always there, the wonderful smell of the perfume musk and the charity they do and when someone you don't know just smile to you and greet you or other brings you a nice cup of cinnamon drink, or those who put dates and milk right in the corner, oh and the children studying quraan with their lovely voice when they talk all together, and I am longing to listening to the sound of Athan life from the mosque

Greetings to all and special greetings to Morocco
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My wish is that my message will not be understood wrong, and will not be taken as offence.

I don't feel shy to say that I don't drink Alcoholic drinks because it is forbidden in Islam, this doesn't mean that I am against others whom are drinking whatever they like to drink.

It is just that I got from this quote that not drinking alcohol may show you as a strange or isolated person? or maybe I understood it wrong but I hope I can share my opinion.

At the begining I found it a bit difficult when going out in the evenings with my colleagues to have a drink, was a bit shy to say I don't drink alcohol and honestly more shy to explain why, and had some problems especially when I find no non-alcoholic drinks in the bar we go to and I end up with some water, but my colleagues always shows very kind attitude and now I really don't feel any problem when saying I don't drink alcohol because it is forbidden in Islam, people respect my belief and I respect their freedom in selecting whatever drink they prefer and life goes great that way.

Sorry, It was off the topic but I wanted to share my opinion about it.

before leaving here, I may say something near to the topic itself, I don't miss minaretes but I miss the atmosphere of real big mosque where people are always there, the wonderful smell of the perfume musk and the charity they do and when someone you don't know just smile to you and greet you or other brings you a nice cup of cinnamon drink, or those who put dates and milk right in the corner, oh and the children studying quraan with their lovely voice when they talk all together, and I am longing to listening to the sound of Athan life from the mosque

Greetings to all and special greetings to Morocco
Your contribution is exactly to the topic. As I in places between Casablanca and Muscat generally enjoyed the athmosphere and the sense of tolerance. I never was in S.A. except an hour on the ground at (old) Jeddah airport (midnight / 42°C) and on another occasion an hour above S.A. enroute from CAI to Abu Dhabi). The gent mentioned simply is a totalitarian grumpy git
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Your contribution is exactly to the topic. As I in places between Casablanca and Muscat generally enjoyed the athmosphere and the sense of tolerance. I never was in S.A. except an hour on the ground at (old) Jeddah airport (midnight / 42°C) and on another occasion an hour above S.A. enroute from CAI to Abu Dhabi). The gent mentioned simply is a totalitarian grumpy git
Yes, you know Wollishofener, Minaret is not really of need nowadays as it was used when it was used sine ~ 1400 years ago for a couple of reasons, one so the call for prayer done from it so people in the whole region listens to it and come for the prayer and the other reason was so that if travelers are coming they can find a mark to tell them where is the nearest mosque as the mosques were used for not only prayers but also for resting and socialization in general.

So for me as a guest here in Switzerland, I have to respect their vote but what I really miss is having a mosque like those ones in my home country, where you just sit even without praying just feeling peace and happiness like some chemistry is making you the most happy person on earth.

My home city is also called the city of 1000 minaret and the view when the airplane is landing at night is all light green and light blue from the minaret's light, they keep it on all the night, electricity is not as expensive as here
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