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if they are going to regulate, i would propose setting a maximum age or a minimum level of attractiveness. let's say at least a '7' on the universal beauty scale. maybe have annual re-testing/licensing.
Especially for the clients!
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Re: Prostitutes should be at least 18 says the Cabinet

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Yes, we are all different. But as a mother, grand-mother and a secondary school teacher for over 30 years (and very street wise with that) NO 16 year old is likely not to be damaged for life by prostitution. End off (no pun intended). As said, you obviously haven't got or have never had, a 16 year old daughter.
Last comment was sick Phil, sorry.
So your point is "NO 16 year old is likely not to be damaged for life by prostitution" but an 18 year old will manage it OK?
How do you work that out?
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I am not saying that at all, and of course you know it.
The line has to be drawn somewhere, and setting it at 18 makes more sense than 16, somehow. Most people could understand that.
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Especially for the clients!
That'd never go over as guys who need to pay for it are a lot like the guys driving the maserati in 'arrest me' red: balding, overweight, over 45 and generally lacking in charm or looks. It's like the old IT adage: "speed, price, reliability; pick two" only with "looks, price, speed" instead.

And there doesn't need to be a 'standard' for the girls as, let's face it, guys desperate enough to sit in a 'box' on a street to get their rocks off, aren't interested in the girl's looks and would stuff a rhino if it were available. If you're that kind of guy you can neither afford a woman that good looking nor would those sorts of women take you as a client.

I have never understood the way guys go in for paying for sex - particularly with girls bordering on children. It's a power thing, I understand, but why not spend the money on improving your looks or a new car? Perhaps in my approaching cougarhood, I'll understand the appeal of paying teenage boys for a romp....
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I have never understood the way guys go in for paying for sex
Those that I know that do so find it cheaper than marriage or dating (even though they may also be married or dating).

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Poor things, my heart bleeds for those sad blokes.
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I am not saying that at all, and of course you know it.
The line has to be drawn somewhere, and setting it at 18 makes more sense than 16, somehow. Most people could understand that.
why does it have to be drawn based on age?
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I am not saying that at all, and of course you know it.
The line has to be drawn somewhere, and setting it at 18 makes more sense than 16, somehow. Most people could understand that.
As I wrote in post 92; Problem is the law should be about maturity and not linked to a specific age but I have no clue about how to do that.

Setting the age at 18 is not a solution; it is just a fudge that makes people feel better "look I did something positive".
Nobody knows if it will improve life for 90% of the girls, for 9% or for 0.9%; I suspect nobody wants to look into that question more deeply because it will throw up "too difficult to deal with" issues.
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Re: Prostitutes should be at least 18 says the Cabinet

On the other hand, how is a married guy paying for sex different than a woman married to a mechanic paying someone else to fix her car?

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why does it have to be drawn based on age?
It's like the drinking age in the US, it's just easier that way.

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It's like the drinking age in the US, it's just easier that way.

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so prostitution is the same as drinking alcohol?

i thought that since there is a small number of prostitutes (compared to the number of people who drink) then it would make more sense to do an assessment as part of a licensing scheme.
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so prostitution is the same as drinking alcohol?

i thought that since there is a small number of prostitutes (compared to the number of people who drink) then it would make more sense to do an assessment as part of a licensing scheme.
Perhaps they could introduce an apprenticeship?

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so prostitution is the same as drinking alcohol?
Only in the sense that in both cases it's easier to make things "aged based" than "reality based".

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I read somewhere that the prostitutes in Romania come to your house, clean it, iron your shirts, make you dinner, and then have sex with you.

Perhaps the Swiss version is: Write a business plan, present it, get funding, put together a team, make money, and then have sex with you.
This made me laugh!! ..
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Those that I know that do so find it cheaper than marriage or dating (even though they may also be married or dating).

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I can appreciate the desire for casual and inexpensive liasons but, in an industry rife with disease and corruption, what makes it so appealing? I mean, if you are so uninterested in the emotional aspect, what's wrong with a jar of lube, some tissues and pr0n to really make it simple? That's the part of the equation I don't get. Is it that they feel so insecure about themselves that they think that the only way they can get a woman, a woman without options who has been reduced to slavery of sorts, is to pay for it?

I always get a chuckle from Ernie Cline's "Nerd Porn Auteur" - "Like a preacher needs pain, like a needle needs a vein, guys need porn"

http://www.ernestcline.com/spokenword/npa.htm

"Cunning linguistics" is also a treasure.

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so prostitution is the same as drinking alcohol?

i thought that since there is a small number of prostitutes (compared to the number of people who drink) then it would make more sense to do an assessment as part of a licensing scheme.
In the realm of 'freakonomics', apparently legalizing prostitution reduces the pool of willing prostitutes and opens the floodgates for the much less willing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit...an_trafficking
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/netherl.htm

It's a curious twist on the usual rules of supply and demand but, I've lived in other countries where it is legal and the same observations applied.

The younger they are, the more vulnerable they are and the less likely they are to be able to fight back or escape. Not to mention most of the sad bastards who enjoy prostitutes prefer them young and vulnerable since they have issues of their own that feed on that.

I keep trying to imagine myself as a guy, in desperate need of sex, heading to the red light district for an easy lay and just cannot imagine myself boning a 16yo (or younger). It's about the same for paedofiles - I just cannot imagine what is broken inside of those guys that finds children sexually appealing.

Under 18 is a child - even though I remember well thinking otherwise of myself at that age and kids grow up so much faster now with all the various media exposing them to things I wouldn't have dreamed of as a kid. Prostitution should be the choice of last resort for anyone unless it's something they enjoy....which would be the exception.
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Re: Prostitutes should be at least 18 says the Cabinet

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Yes, we are all different. But as a mother, grand-mother and a secondary school teacher for over 30 years (and very street wise with that) NO 16 year old is likely not to be damaged for life by prostitution. End off (no pun intended). As said, you obviously haven't got or have never had, a 16 year old daughter.
Last comment was sick Phil, sorry.

Basically right you are. BUT, the history of things like the alcohol prohibition in the USA and the ban of alcoholic beverages in the Alcoholic Republic of Iran both prove that bans often do not solve problems but make problems worse. The failure of the anti-drugs programs in Western Europe (and elsewhere) shows that laws and restrictions and containment measures only too often fail to hit. THIS is the problem. I do not trust all those chaps who proclaim not to have known really about the age of the girl or to have thought the girl to be 18 and a half !

As you yourself have pointed out, fact is that many 16years old girls look more adult and more "aged" than 18 years old boys
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Re: Prostitutes should be at least 18 says the Cabinet

Banning something does not make it disappear. In other words, prostitution stays. The question is only for each society to decide if it prefers the forms it takes when bein illigal or the forms it takes being legal. Same with teen sex in coutries with 18 age of consent, same with alcohol under islamic low, same with drugs in teh world, same with viagra on internet, same with dog meat in China, same with French language in Alsace under the nazis...
Teen girls asking for "presents" in exchange for sex is nothing new in Japan, France, Italy and a couple of more countries I have seen it repported about in the media. All Hoax? Maybe, I didn't check the info first hand.
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Re: Prostitutes should be at least 18 says the Cabinet

i guess could be cheaper than this: Child support law enforced outside Switzerland

though i would like to see more protection for the men. after all, most of these girls look pretty rank and i couldn't imagine anyone of sound mind making use of their services whilst sober. i mean, it's kind of like a rape and mugging combined.
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Perhaps they could introduce an apprenticeship?

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About you 2 starting with your own 16 year old daughters, or sisters?
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