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Old 29.12.2010, 01:50
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Re: For those not in CH who want to marry a Swiss

So if a Swiss accepts sham marriage and get paid for it, aren't they considered the real criminals?....i mean if they didn't accept the money, this wouldn't have happened on the first place, so why blame it on the foreigners when the Swiss are actually the criminals in this case???
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Re: For those not in CH who want to marry a Swiss

We had a thread about the Comagic twins ( Green Card marriage ) - parents married Swiss citizens after a failed attempt previously to gain asylum.

A sham marriage is considered a crime under (Art. 118 AuG)- PDF page 12.
I wonder if the Swiss citizens involved faced anything.
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So if a Swiss accepts sham marriage and get paid for it, aren't they considered the real criminals?....i mean if they didn't accept the money, this wouldn't have happened on the first place, so why blame it on the foreigners when the Swiss are actually the criminals in this case???
As I said above, they are both wrong.

Ultimately the foreigner loses his/her right to stay and loses the money (and as in the case jrspet mentioned seems he loses his pride too). The Swiss person faces criminal charges. However in the jury of public opinion we foreigners get the blame and more SVP rah rah.
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Re: For those not in CH who want to marry a Swiss

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As I said above, they are both wrong.

Ultimately the foreigner loses his/her right to stay and loses the money (and as in the case jrspet mentioned seems he loses his pride too). The Swiss person faces criminal charges. However in the jury of public opinion we foreigners get the blame and more SVP rah rah.

well you can't just say the only culprit is the one who accepted the money and not the one who offered it - this is like saying (a little extreme, I know) a raped girl is the criminal and should be punished cause without her having been around (and maybe having worn a mini skirt, typical excuse those guys use.. "she wanted it") the rapist wouldn't have had the chance of raping someone...

And I do not think Swiss are so stupid to blame ALL foreigners just because of a few idiots, if you really think that you might be living in the wrong country
btw a lot of SVP politicians are married to Eastern European women.. not too sure all of those marriages are based on love..
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Re: For those not in CH who want to marry a Swiss

That's really a very bad example (not to mention offensive). Maybe you could delete it & think of something else......
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Re: For those not in CH who want to marry a Swiss

The Federal Court has eased the rules a bit.

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The case before the court involved a Cameroon man without a residency permit who wanted to marry a legal Swiss resident. The couple had a child aged three.

The father appealed against a decision by the Vaud cantonal authorities and court turning down the marriage request. He ended up taking his case to the Federal Court, which in turn overturned the cantonal ruling.

In handing downsix-month permit its ruling, it referred to a decision by the European court in Strasbourg which found that the Swiss system could contradict article 12 of the European Convention of Human Rights in cases where “a foreigner in an irregular situation genuinely and sincerely wants to get married”.

The Federal Court said the fact that the couple would have to go abroad to get married infringed European Convention requirements.

The Swiss migration policy organisation Solidarité sans frontières said it would probably mean authorities would have to give foreigners a six-month permit to stay in Switzerland, during which time the marriage would have to have been processed.

The Swiss People’s Party had originally put forward the law as a result of marriage being used by people wanting to obtain a visa.

In 2004 the Federal Civil Status Office estimated that between 500 and 1,000 marriages – three per cent – were not genuine.
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My wife works with a guy from Pakistan. He paid about 60K to marry a Swiss woman. This was 4 months ago. He has to live in a two bed apartment and stay in one room AND pay for the apartment.
Also, he has been told to hide in his room when any friends of his so called wife are invited round. He is also not allowed to cook there.
If he does not agree then she has said she will divorce him.

Nice business, but I would not sacrifice 5-10 years of my life for this relatively small amount of dough.

Makes me feel quite lucky that I met the right woman - but I was never good at long term planning. Maybe in a decade he can marry his true love and they can live in CH.
a minimum 5 year sentence for the beneficiary of this sham marriage seems appropriate, in this case the woman.
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